Networks break even when fights sell over 300,000 PPVs. 97K got Hershman fired at HBO

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

    Showtime PPV fights:
    Mayweather: 2.2 million
    Angulo: 350,000
    Lara: 300,000

    HBO PPV fights:
    Cotto: 900,000 (after Hershman)

    Gennady "GGG" Golovkin

    HBO PPV fights:
    Lemieux: 97k- 150,000 (Lost money, got Sports president fired.):deal

    HBO is about to hit boxing fans with PPV after PPV this year.
    Showtime has a prime time line-up of network fights. NO PPV.

    (I'M NOT ON EITHER SIDE JUST POINTING THINGS OUT)
     
  2. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ...surely the break even point is effected by how much they are paying the fighters? A cheap show to put on breaks even at a lower point than a pricey show
     
  3. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    You're so primitive i almost feel like i am insulting my intelligence by correcting you, but here goes:

    Canelo: household name, was in a huge PPV with a cash cow
    Cotto: household name, was in multiple huge PPV with cash cows
    Genady: Never has been in any PPV in the past, has never fought a cash cow.


    break even point: depends ENTIRELY on the overall expenses of the show. 300 000 is not some magic number; salaries of the boxers, network expenses etc all play a role.

    There is a fairly straightforward loss/benefit equation that accounts for mandatory losses (network fees etc) but there is no clear cut restriction set at 300 k.
     
  4. Nay_Sayer

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    What were the purses for the Bumlovkin Lemmy fight?
     
  5. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure but it was a 50/50 split I think.
     
  6. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin right now could be raking in $5 mil+ fight. But they pay his opponents well to get them to take the fight so Golovkin ends up having to take less but its still in the millions.
     
  7. Nay_Sayer

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    According to this [url]source[/url], purses for the Bumlovkin Lemmy fight were $2 mil and $1.5 mil respectively. The source also says the PPV was priced at $60 for HD and $50 for SD. If we assume a 50/50 distribution between the HD and SD buys then the math works out as follows; $55 x 97K PPV buys = $5,335,000 in total PPV revenue. Since the cable/satellite companies take half off of the top - that leaves $2,667,500 in revenue - which doesn't even cover the purses for the main event.

    This PPV lost money. Period, end of....
     
  8. pablinov

    pablinov Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are concessions and gate not included?
     
  9. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PPVs never lose an event money. You either sell some or you don't. Purses are guaranteed.
     
  10. Nay_Sayer

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    I can't find any numbers on the live gate..
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    GG's comp is why his ppv tanked. Fans know the deal and will pay for real fights.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What?:nut
     
  13. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Taffet said the ppv met their expectations and was a success but you must know more than him right?
     
  14. Nay_Sayer

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    Tell Taffet to open the books or STFU...
     
  15. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    Taffet said the ppv met their expectations and was a success but you must know more than him right?


    just like when Espinoza would say he was happy ....and yall losers acted like you knew more.....

    yall should stop playing this ggg game....yall played it with pac/Floyd and are showing how you played yourselves