I think Germany got a really bad reputation based on Sven Ottke's disgraceful title reign. However, there are other things that go on there which don't seem to happen in many other countries. Anybody remember that long count Krasniqi got against Brewster or the way Arthur Abraham was forced to continue fighting against Miranda when he said to his trainer "I'm kaput?"
I read a conflicting report and don't take this the wrong way but unless you were at ringside I'm gonna take your story with the grain of salt I take the one I heard.
i commented on the brewster vs krasniqui incident in another thread, but i too never seen that happen before ANYWHERE!!! that was foul play, no doubt. but what struck me most that there seemed to be no controversy about it afterwards.....
Moot point my friend cuz Brewster won. Now had Krasniqi pulled himself together and won a decision there would have been an international boycott on German boxing. It's one of those things in which u have to convince yourself of what you just saw because you're in disbelief when you're actually watching it take place. Sort of like when Hopkins threw the Puerto Rican flag on the floor. It took a while for that to register with me cuz I just couldn't ****ing believe it.
You seem like a sensible poster. Would u agree that alot of Germany's reputation came from Sven Ottke's title reign? The Robin Reid debacle put alot of people over the edge and rightly so.
What's that, 3 decisions now where the consensus say Valuev won comfortably, with a loud minority saying he lost (Ruiz, Donald, Bergeron)? It seems obvious to me that there are just some people who don't know how to score with Valuev, or at least score him differently....
I just recently found out that Maske beat him a few times in the amateurs and olympics. Now that guy was a fighter.
I had the fight a draw. I could see an arguement made for a close Valuev decision. Very poor judging.
:good Just the two examples I was going to use. Show me ANY fight in Germany that was worse than: 1) Sturm gluing his jab to DLH's face and losing the decision (when he should have won about 8 rounds to 4 - Oscar didn't do ANYTHING) because Hoya had the Hops fight next, OR, 2) Lennox Lewis being FLAT-OUT ROBBED OF THE UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP, IN VEGAS, AGAINST AN AMERICAN, IN FRONT OF A WORLDWIDE AUDIENCE OF MILLIONS. :hat