NEVER Slug With.....

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Fighting scared is harsh, I don’t think so. I think he just recognised the price of victory and decided it wasn’t for him and that he might be able to wear Mike out. But only James can say- I just never assume any boxer is “scared” seems a bit unfair.
     
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  2. My dinner with Conteh

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  3. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I remember Smith’s last hurrah in the final round…it was quite impressive while it lasted. It makes you wonder just what could have happened if he went for it from the first bell. Personally i think Bonecrusher would have got flattened, but in HW boxing, with two had hitters slugging it out, a killer haymaker from either one landing flush, and it could be goodbye Vienna.

    Yes I agree totally about Sonny. I would love to have seen Shavers, Foreman and Tyson give it a right good go against him though. Not at the same time of course, because even Sonny would find that a wee bit uncomfortable haha!
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    And Sonny Liston, and George Foreman, and Mike Tyson, and Riddick Bowe. Any more?
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Well Quarry did slug with him and knock him out so he's an absolute given. Your premise if fine tho all four would be heavily favored to pole axe him in a slugfest.
     
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  7. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haven't heard Ray Mercers name thrown out so I'll add him.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Cooper slugged with him. One of the finest slobberknockers I ever saw

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  9. Barm

    Barm New Member Full Member

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    LaMotta fits here quite well.
     
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bringing him up brings up an interesting point. There are two general types you don't want to slug with -- guys who can hit like a truck and super durable guys. Even if a durable guy isn't a big hitter, he still might be able to take two for every one of yours and come out on top.

    And how about the glass cannon big hitters? I can see some situations in which it might make sense to go for it.

    I guess the real ones to never slug with are the durable big hitters -- Foreman, Tyson, etc. Unless you're Holyfield... (lol)
     
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    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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  12. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Especially if you're Graham...
     
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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marvin Hagler, just look at his resume and the results ..... Every fighter that came at him, was damn near killed. Sibson, Antefermo, Minter, Roldan, Mugabi, Hearns, Lee, Hamsho, Briscoe, his run against the Philly fighters , all were tough as nails and in a different era, probably could've won at least a portion of a championship.
    Hagler dominated them.
    George Foreman, possibly the strongest heavyweight in history as far as brute strength. Was taught to use that physicality to its ultimate advantage. A wrecking machine at the top of his game.
    Hamerin Hank Armstrong, a human buzz saw, whose greatest attribute was in close and grinding opponents to saw dust.
    Roberto Duran, at the top of his game, a grappling master, that always seemed to have the right angle, almost impossible to hit cleanly though he was usually the aggressor.
    Joe Louis and Alexis Arguello, both fighters were similar stylistically both had devastating power and technically damn near perfect, going at the was a recipe for disaster.
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    True Vic, if Smith had thrown down from the start, he might’ve had some successes, perhaps even eye catching ones but vey likely Mike would’ve weathered it to go on to an early to mid round KO. Tucker’s quest to survive wasn’t as bad - and at the other extreme as compared to James, Tony landed his best shot, the left uppercut in round 1.

    A round robin involving the punchers you mentioned (Liston, Foreman etc.) would be the ticket. After they’ve all fought each other - I’ll say, just imo, Sonny beats them all, and based on most wins otherwise the order would be: Foreman, Tyson and Shavers. But as you said, with big hitters involved, sometimes anything can happen.
     
  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don’t tug on Superman’s cape

    You don’t spit into the wind

    You don’t pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger

    And you don’t slug with Foreman
     
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