NEVER Slug With.....

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Early on, in the first round when they were both fresh Gomez ended up on the canvas in the first serious exchange where both planted and punched together. Sanchez chased after him for the rest of the round as Gomez gave ground virtually non-stop. Sanchez fought in the pocket at various times later on and got the best of his share of exchanges. Sanchez did slip into a more casual gear as the fight settled but he'd done a lot of damage in that early shootout. It was like he wanted to establish dominance in that first round.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Absolutely DP. Sanchez was one of these counter punchers that often liked to move toward their foe and draw their attack. Napoles was a great example of another. They didn't wait, wait, wait they liked to make it happen.
     
  3. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Recently I was watching one of the many The Godfather explanation videos on You Tube and came to realize that Sanchez was Vito Corleone to Gomez's Emilio Barzini: Sanchez awaited patiently, while at the same time exploring his opponent's weaknesses, while Gomez just attacked and revealed many things about himself to Sanchez.

    In the end, just like the Corleones, Sanchez won.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    True but Sanchez did attack early and did some serious damage that lingered for the rest of the fight.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Harada Basilio & Jenkins spell trouble in a brawl
     
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  6. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Lyle did do this, and it was anybody's fight until Ron wore down. Also, George couldn't match Ali's hand speed and readily admits that he just couldn't compete when they were ring center and flat footed. Muhammad was able to trade punches on his own terms, too elusive and too fast for Foreman to slug with.
     
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  7. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Even Hagler played the cutie with Bad Bennie, circling the ring perimeter while deploying his long right jab, using what Malcom "Flash" Gordon defined as class ("The ability to move and deploy the jab.") I don't think Bennie took a backwards step in that one, but check the footage of that bout's entirety to confirm my recall. Hagler could and did do it all during his career, cutie, infighting, stalking, a complete fighter at his very best. In his final victory, he outslugged a monster puncher in Mugabe, who came up with his career best performance for Hagler. He just couldn't back Marv up, and Hagler may have had the best chin of all time.

    Ace Hudkins? Mickey Walker produced perhaps his best career performance by retreating in the pocket to outbox the Nebraska Wildcat, a bout seen frequently on YouTube.
     
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  8. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Joe Louis outslugged Max Baer at the end of the opening round in perhaps the greatest exchange of power I've ever seen between heavyweights. Joe just put his punches together too well for anybody to outslug him during his prime. Marciano retired him, but that was still no picnic for Rocky, as Louis drew blood and won some rounds after his combination punching deserted him.
     
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  9. janitor

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    The correct answer to this question is a slugger.

    If you are up against a slugger, try to outbox them.

    If your natural style is swarmer, then you are probably in for a difficult nigh, whatever you do.
     
  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Not even a Happy Hooker. Ha Ha.
     
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  11. TheOldTimer

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    No one said Frazier
     
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  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ****ing great post, John! Superb!
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    You are too kind Clint!!!!!
     
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  14. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm shocked no one's said Carlos Zarate.
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Heard of it but I’ve never seen that actual film Rich. How many stars do you give it out of 5?

    Joe Frazier beat up on a lot guys like a pimp whose street corner and/or ladies were under threat.

    And as Foreman accurately observed (vs Quarry), Joe very much enjoyed going about the business of protecting his turf.
     
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