New age promoting

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Marlow, Dec 28, 2012.


  1. USA Rob

    USA Rob Boxing Addict banned

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    1) There main event are almost always competative fights.
    2) They take calculated risks with there stars.
    3) There adaptable. Not every fighter follows the same path to the top.
    4) They keep prospects busy and match them aggresivley.
    5) There undercards are always solid.
    6) They interact better with fans.
    7) Forward thinking.
    8) Co-Promote.
    9) There shows our more enjoyable, better put together.
     
  2. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    You might want to rethink that. Or better yet, re watch the fight where he ends up beaten half senseless on the canvas.
     
  3. Bill C84

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    They pay their fighters within 7 days. ;)
     
  4. Jack Dempsey

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    Fixed:good
     
  5. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol:

    Frank would file a lawsuit against his own children if they disagreed with him.

    Eddie probably wouldn't.
     
  6. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Any idot promoter with a european level fighter can get that fighter a world title shot if they are prepared to take **** money. Its only promoting when you win the rights to a fight, get a good deal for your man and get it on home turf.
     
  7. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it had been uk would there be an American audience watching?
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    So a fight is only decent if an obese Yank is sat at home watching it? Promoting is all about getting the best deal for your fighter, and that might not include the US. Sending Rees to the US to get beat up for slave wages is NOT good promoting
     
  9. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's Rees earning I've not seen the figures?
     
  10. Special

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    What are these slave wages? Don't talk crap
     
  11. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    How do you know that Im talking crap when you have no idea what he's earning? Rees looses (hahaha) regardless :lol:

    What would you consider to be not slave wages....at what point does a Rees purse for that fight become acceptable?
     
  12. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you actually have any idea what he's earning?

    Or did you use the term "slave wages" without any foundation?
     
  13. Jack

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    These are two key issues for me.

    Boxing needs to be presented a lot better than it has been in the last few years. You put BoxNation on and you see a small hall show, with poor commentary, poor lighting, no HD, no atmosphere and no sense of importance. That has been the standard for many years, but it makes boxing look cheap and worthless. No casual fan is going to watch that and say "****ing hell, I don't know who the fighters are but I'd love to be there right now". For the sport to grow, it has to appeal to casual fans and that isn't going to happen with small time, poorly produced shows.

    I watched a clip of darts last night from 2007. That's only 5 years ago, yet the atmosphere was horrible. The venue had an odd echo to it, the lighting was poor and it felt like the old darts shows with Jocky Wilson and Eric Bristow. It wasn't good enough because it wasn't appealing to casual fans, so Matchroom changed it. Darts' popularity has soared because their product changed and became more appealing to casual fans, not because fans were wanting to go in droves and that forced Matchroom to change.

    For me, boxing needs to follow the same format. Produce shows which look good for non-fans. If something looks cheap and outdated, nobody is going to be impressed by that but if something is well produced, it will attract attention.

    Matchroom are producing shows which have a big feel to them. The lighting is right, you get good music and a sense that you're watching something which is important. The Klitschko shows in Germany are brilliantly produced for the same reason. It might only be a throwaway fight with a guy like Mormeck but it feels like the most important thing in the world, and that's exactly how it should feel. Then look at something like 'Biggers Better' or any of the other cheap shows produced in Europe. They look awful, and I know the cost from those to a K2 show is incomparable but there isn't even the slightest attempt to make it into a TV friendly product. It looks cheap, so why is any non-boxing fan going to sit through that?

    It's one of the things the NFL does perfectly. There are lots of breaks in the action, so they need to make the sport appealing outside of the actual game. They do a terrific job in that sense, and that's why many people like me are attracted to the games.

    Boxing needs to change it's production levels otherwise casual fans won't be interested. Matchroom may be making a loss right now but their investment will pay off.
     
  14. icemax

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    I'm not going to be doing the googling for you :thumbsup....What would you class as non-slave in this situation?, a scenario where rees could put on a masterclass but still not get the nod
     
  15. billy nelson

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    I'd like to see kell win but that's a hard job even harder in the states