New HW top ten after the nights action

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by andrewa1, Aug 18, 2018.


  1. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fury has had three fights telecast in the states. two were complete stinkers. the only thing he has going for him, promotion wise, is a huge mouth. ward was an olympic medalist. won the smw tourney. he is more known than wilder. kovalev has years of exciting fights on hbo. fury has had three fights broadcast here. then if you go on youtube, kovalev is exciting. fury freaking stinks the joint out. that is why it won't draw those numbers. add in boxing is dying every day here.
     
  2. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    far more people saw Jennings-Dimitrenko on ESPN tonight than saw Fury-Pianeta. then add in fury's fight was an absolute stinker, while the ESPN fight was entertaining.
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    WFurygob of rationally pointless goblty gook. Your reasoning is like my cell phone spell check, cometely off the wall.

    Essentially you didn't really try to rationally counter my points, certainly in a systemic manner, except to make these statements : a Kovale is exciting( So is Wilder) b Ward is an olymipc medalist (irrelevant to sales, but so is Wilder) c Ward is more known than Wilder (debatable, but he is more known as a boring fighter, AND in the lower weight)

    So, essentially we've established, and whether you are intellectually capable of understanding it or not, you've implicitly accepted, that Ward Kovalev and Fury Wilder are a comp for ppv. As Wilder fury are he's and better at self promotion, they have a higher ceiling than Ward Kovalev, which is probably their floor in terms of buys.

    So thanks for playing green gnat! You have been fun to school!
     
  4. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you left out kovalev is far more known here than fury and far more exciting.
     
  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Minor point easily dealt with: kovs exciting ess = Wilders, Wards boringness = or > Furys. Debatable whther he is more known. More shown? Yeah, but promoters are smart enough to realize that is a minor and correctable issue on the balance
     
  6. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cool, perma ban if fury-wilder doesn't sell more? if not, move on.
     
  7. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whatever ban you think is ok, i will do.
     
  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Unlike you, I don't deal in absolutes. I never said it WOULD do better than that fight. In fact, I think that was my second or third post on the string I've had with you, saying that was a potential low end. What intellectually challenged people like you fail to understand is it's not result, it's process. The tools are there for it to be good. It will probably do better than Ward Kovalev. But maybe not. So again, as I've noticed you were done a few times, you are shifting the goalposts through false equivalency.

    The fair thing, since I say Wilder fury will PROBABLY do good, and you say it will CERTAINLY do bad, is for you to simply agree to leave the forum permanently if it does better than Ward Kovalev.
     
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  9. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Doesn't Chisora need to be much higher considering he basically got a draw with Whyte?

    And I balk at Breazeale ranking that high. What has he accomplished? But then it kind of seems like we are out alternatives...
     
  10. titanic

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    I can agree with this list
     
  11. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whatever you like. the internet means nothing to me. much rather be up in Wisconsin camping and boating.
     
  12. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Awesome. Sayonara then.
     
  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you gotta win first, which you won't. just saying i don't give a damn if you did.
     
  14. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm not entirely sure you followed along with what I said beforehand in framing it, but then you've never really shown much capacity as that goes, so I'll just let it go.
     
  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    can't say i read your long, dimwitted bs thoroughly.