New or reconfigured 168 lb rankings... Post your LIST

Here you are making up stuff again, telling us Andrade is better now than he was against Kessler, based on what? He could not beat guys like Stieglitz and Tsypko pre- Kessler, how do you know this?

Kessler is not shot, he's just fighting quality opponents, you tend to look less amazing fighting A-level opposition, Kessler looked better than Bute in beating the hell out of Andrade.

Fact is, Bute is beating up left overs and never has beens. He's not beat one legitimate 168lbs'er that Kessler wouldn't run right through with ease, or the other super six participants for that matter.

 

another horrible list

 

1.Bute
2.Ward
3.Kessler
4.Direll
5.Froch
6.AA
7.Bika
8.Stieglitz
9.A Green
10. Andrade

 

1-Bute
2-Ward
3-Dirrell
4-Abraham
5-Froch
6-Kessler

Edit- I had Froch winning against Kessler :/ ... and Dirrell won against Froch in my eyes

 

Get over the taste of Lucians nuts already, he's beating left overs and never been cans. Berrio, Andrade (whom he got smashed to bits by in the first fight in a lot of peoples eyes, as he finished damn near unconscious), Miranda and a relatively competetive bout with Sakio Bika.

Do not believe in the hype, boys.. this man is a home grown, manufactured hype. Librado Andrade had already been dismantled prior to fighting him the first time, and he damn near escaped death the first time around, Miranda had been dropped like a bag of shite against Arthur and had just been thuroughly outboxed by Andre Ward.

Sorry but, how does taking two fights to eraze getting smashed by Librado Andrade and beating Edison Miranda shine brighter than beating an elite, two time champion in Mikkel Kessler and dismantling Miranda with ease?

It does not, Andre Ward is easily #1.

 

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Even though Andre Ward got the WBA belt at home against Mikkel Kessler, he's the true #1 as of right now. There is no way Bute should be #1.

 

Same as mine.

Although i think Abraham is going to beat Froch.

 

True.

I like Bute, and he will surely get his chance to prove where he stands.

But there is no way of telling as long as he fights Mirandas and Zunigas... Just no way.

Ward beat Kessler beat Froch beat Dirrell beat AA.

1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Froch
4. Dirrell
5. AA
6. Bute
7. Green
8. Taylor
9. Andrade
10. Pavlik (assuming he comes up)

 

88% of people voted that Kessler was right to get the decision.

Froch's trainer conceeded that Froch hadn't done enough to win the decision.

Froch himself said the fight was close and he thought he MAY have done enough to get the decision - with a guy like Froch who talks the way he does about his opponents, for him to show ANY degree of uncertainty tells you a lot about how he really saw the fight.

Kessler got the decision through higher work rate, more punches landed and effective aggression - he had Froch fighting backwards for 90% of the fight.

Anyone who believes this is a close fight really doesn't understand how to score boxing fights and should just enjoy it as the amateur fans they are.

 

Personally

1. Bute
2. Ward
3. Kessler
4. Dirrell
5. Froch

 

1- No one (One fight doesn't get you the first spot / Not being in the super six kills Bute for this spot)
2-Ward / Bute
3-Dirrell
4-Abraham
5-Kessler
6-Froch
7-Librado Andrade
8-Sakio Bika
9-Allen Green
10-Robert Stieglitz

 

I tried to make a list. but this division is giving me a nosebleed. Close fights, controversial decisions, who-beat-who, and the frequency of bouts because of the tournament. I love it!

 

Hate is not good for your health. It does strange things to your brain.
Andrade is still a top ten. And how can I know Andrade is better than 4 years ago? I just watch him! It should be obvious but your hate makes you blind. :nut
Miranda is Ward's second best win. If he's garbage, then Ward's second best win is garbage, leaving him with only Kessler on his resume. Hum... Not sure you're helping yourself with that one.

By the way, I didn't say Bute is number 1. I put him in the top 3 with Ward and Dirrell. It's impossible to rank them for the moment.

 

:rofl

What happens where you're from if you say "factored in some intangibles"