NEW Prediction League: ~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Pavlik v Taylor & MORE! Please JOIN!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Feb 12, 2008.


  1. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    But if a mistake has been made then it will surely be announced. It will set a bad precedent if we start making our own minds up. THe issue hasn't been missed at all, just a different opinion to yours.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A Pavlik-Taylor non-title fight more important than either of tonight's 115 lb bouts? :lol::lol:

    It's barely more important than Valuev-Liakhovich.

    Though it is fairly entertaining so far.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So if someone picked Calzaghe wide ud, and one judge gave Lacy every round, that person should not be credited with the correct prediction?
     
  4. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch

    In terms of tipping it is for me, as I have both cash bet and it is the joker match up in other comps. I also thought this match up was being used for more points in this comp, or a similar idea had been suggested.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. The undercard is where the "blue ribbon" fights were tonight. :good
     
  6. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    No, you go off the judges scorecards. Because it will lead to FAR to much disagreement when it comes to fights that aren't so clear cut. It just provides people with an opportunity to try and over throw decisions that didn't go their way. And IT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PICKING PROCESS. If a fighter goes to Germany, and isn't a puncher, thinking about the judging taking place should be a factor in choosing your pick. You can't change the outcome BECAUSE IT SUITS YOU. As stated earlier, I would stand to benefit from this also in this instance.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Okay, you can predict hometown judging, or factor it into your prediction. How does one factor things like corruption/psychosis/human error in filling out the scorecards? Honestly I am 100% convinced that scorecard was in error and that it was not meant to have been for Navarro. Why it has not been corrected by now is beyond me. Maybe the judge has already left the event and/or cannot be contacted? Or is embarassed?

    So first of all, I'm convinced that the black and white result will be amended. Secondly, you're putting the black and white result on far too high a pedestal. This is a prediction league on an internet forum. We're not exchanging money - we're not even exchanging vcash. All that is at stake is the satisfaction of having predicted the outcome of the fight. Really not formal enough to need to be done unconditionally "by the book". I'm not sure why you're acting like there's some sense of integrity we need to preserve here. I don't really care how it affects my prediction. This just doesn't strike me as something formal enough where we should be saying "Nope, the following people predicted the fight wrong (even though they predicted it on the money) because Doug Tucker defied logic and we have to go by what's on boxrec".
     
  8. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Could have been paid off for all we know. Look, if Decebal or Huki come in and decide to say that in this EXTREME instance to overturn it, i wouldn't have a problem. As long as it doesn't happen everytime someone doesn't like a decision... Imagine the contraversy of fights like Hop v Taylor
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Completely different scenario, not even remotely comparable.

    There are decisions that are close and controversial, and then there are those that are not. Even the HBO commentators surmised that it was a tabulation error.
     
  10. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Why did you edit your other posts, after i had already posted again:think

    I was talking about setting a precedent, which isn't something I would like to see. IMO, boxing is risky to pick on for a number of reasons. Changing it to suit you when you feel like it takes the fun out of it. It could be a dominant performance where it has been scored closely, or any number of scenarios similar... And it ends up turning the picking comp into something that gets changed all the time.

    In regards to integrity, i would just prefer to run things properly... Decebal asked for opinions and i gave mine. If you don't agree thats fine with me, not bothered in the slightest.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Problem is not so much how to score Mijares fight but Pavlik fight. I had that a wide decision win for Taylor.:huh

    What do you think?
     
  12. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I thought Taylor won too. And I piced him to win.


    Don't change the rules now.


    Now I have 2 losses on my record :(
     
  13. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Just posted this in another, no sense retyping:nono
     
  14. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    :deal Note to IB.... EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

    No, IMO, we run solely off the judges scorecards. Its the only FAIR way to do things. You start changing results and this will turn into a circus.

    Be interested to see what others think. I strongly believe this will be an extremely bad precedent to set.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I had Pavlik winning 116-112