NEW Prediction League: ~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Pavlik v Taylor & MORE! Please JOIN!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Feb 12, 2008.


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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Don't worry. Calzaghe will get robbed too and you will make up the difference over the entire field then!:good
     
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  2. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    If you are trying to imply I am backing B-Hop over Joe, you are mistaken. Thats it, ive had enough, i'm calling in the lawyers.
     
    Smith, Feb 17, 2008
    Smith, Feb 17, 2008
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  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You COULD join the league under an alias, but only if Smith leaves the race. You would then start on 75. But we both know that within a week or two...:lol:

    :good :good :good
     
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  4. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    :lol::good

    I'll be up there at the end. Bad weekend at the races won't get me down.
     
    Smith, Feb 17, 2008
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    That's the spirit, Smith, mate!:happy :happy :happy

    Oh...btw...don't think there should be an "end" as such because if you draw a line and people know when that will be, they start becoming too risk-tolerant towards the end in the hope of making it to the top if they are in the top 5-10. They'd rather take the risk of crashing out if it means there's a chance they can come first. Bad for the league, in the end.
     
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  6. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What're the next fights?
     
    Kolya, Feb 17, 2008
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    There's only one big fight this week, as far as I can make out:

    Wladimir Klitschko v. Sultan Ibragimov.

    I will start a thread tomorrow but wanted more posters to vote in this poll first...not sure whether we do want a clean sweep or not - there are a few people who feel strongly one way or another and I wanted us to sort this out...:think
     
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  8. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you explain a clean sweep and what it is to me? I don't quite understand.
     
    Kolya, Feb 17, 2008
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  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah, sorry...thought everyone knew.

    A "clean sweep" is bonus points offering for picking all the correct winners one week.

    Amsterdam used to run 5 fights every week in his prediction league last year. If you called the winner right in all 5, whether you called the decision/stoppage correctly or not, you would get an extra 20 points added to your week's score, for being consistent. It's probably inspired by the five-fold multiple bet option odds in betting. Am I being clear?
     
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  10. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah, I got you. Hm, I have no opinion on it right now. I can see the pros and cons, I think I'm leaning against it though.
     
    Kolya, Feb 17, 2008
    Kolya, Feb 17, 2008
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    A "clean sweep" is bonus points offering for picking all the correct winners one week.

    Amsterdam used to run 5 fights every week in his prediction league last year. If you called the winner right in all 5, whether you called the decision/stoppage correctly or not, you would get an extra 20 points added to your week's score, for being consistent. It's probably inspired by the five-fold multiple bet option odds in betting. Am I being clear?

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    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 17, 2008
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'd forgotten that one judge had it 115-113 for Mijares (too close IMO, but oh well, not inconceivable, Navarro did enough that I can sort of see why a biased or incompetent judge would have it that close..). So moot point, I guess. If the two judges for Mijares had been wide though, that should have been counted for our purposes as a wide UD, I don't care what MSTR, Decebal, huki, or Bazooka Joe think about the matter. There wasn't a single clear Navarro round, and there were at least eight very, very clear Mijares rounds. Boxrec still has it listed as an SD with Doug Tucker's score unchanged from the original 108-120; that is insane. I'm still waiting for this to be corrected. That score is literally impossible to have been intended for Navarro, even with an incompetent or corrupt judge.

    Taylor-Pavlik is a bad analogy, that was a close fight with just as many people saying Pavlik won clear as saying that Taylor was robbed. You can't compare that to Mijares-Navarro and say "Whoops, it's all subjective; where do you draw the line? Guess we can't set a precedent...". Not even remotely comparable. You can most certainly draw the line between a close, controversial fight and a clear-as-moonshine extremely lopsided victory with an accidental mis-scoring that made even the HBO commentators surmise that it had to have been a boo-boo.

    Like I said, it's a moot point as one judge had it 115-113. It was not a wide UD after all. Had that score been a few points wider, however, this issue would not be put to rest! :fire
     
    IntentionalButt, Feb 17, 2008
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  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's 5 points' difference - no big deal and saves us a lot of arguing. If they overturn the decision, I will change the scores. In the meantime, only way to work this league is to go by the scores, whether fair or not...Why are you so angry? And why have you not voted in the poll yet?:fire
     
    Decebal, Feb 18, 2008
    Decebal, Feb 18, 2008
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  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yes . . . clean sweep for 30 points. :yep

    Picking the right winner is the most important . . . how it would exactly happen should be given less points . . . we are not psychics anyway.
     
    psychopath, Feb 18, 2008
    psychopath, Feb 18, 2008
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  15. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Will this weeks fights be in a new thread or in this one ?
     
    Rise Above, Feb 18, 2008
    Rise Above, Feb 18, 2008
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