BBC 1. Manny Pacquiao - Lightweight Philippines (47-3-2, 35KOs) The all-action Pacquiao became a four-weight world champion by destroying David Diaz to claim the WBC lightweight title and will now fight Oscar de la Hoya in December. 2. Joe Calzaghe - Super-middleweight Wales (46-0, 32KOs) Calzaghe outpointed US legend Roy Jones Jr in New York to maintain his unbeaten record. The Welshman has now hinted at retirement, securing his undefeated legacy and cementing his place at one of Britain's greatest ever boxers. 3. Juan Manuel Marquez - Lightweight Mexico (49-4-1, 36KOs) Marquez became the first man to stop Cuba's Joel Casamayor in his first fight at lightweight and will now chase a third bout with Manny Pacquiao. 4. Antonio Margarito - Welterweight Mexico (37-5, 27KOs) Margarito pipped Miguel Cotto in a thrilling match-up and proved he has perhaps the best chin in the sport. Margarito defends against Joshua Clottey next. 5. Miguel Cotto - Welterweight Puerto Rico (32-1, 26KOs) Cotto finally met his match against Antonio Margarito in a classic encounter, but lost little of his lustre in doing so and is young enough to rise to the top again. 6. Bernard Hopkins - Light-heavyweight United States (49 wins, 5 losses, 1 draws, 32KOs) Hopkins showed he still has plenty to offer with his schooling of the upstart Kelly Pavlik in Atlantic City. Ironically, at the age of 43, he is running out of viable opponents. 7. Israel Vazquez - Super-bantamweight Mexico (43-4, 31KOs) Vazquez reclaimed his WBC belt from Rafael Marquez in August and nicked the rubber match in March. A relentless fighter with a vicious left hook. 8. Ricky Hatton - Light-welterweight England (44-1, 31KOs) Hatton defeated tough Mexican Juan Lazcano in his first fight since losing to Floyd Mayweather and should have enough to beat Paul Malignaggi in the autumn. 9. Paul Williams - Welterweight United States (34-1, 25KOs) Williams defeated Antonio Margarito in 2007 before losing to Carlos Quintana in February. Williams won the rematch and a second clash with Margarito is now a distinct possibility. 10. Kelly Pavlik - Middleweight United States (34-1, 30KOs) Pavlik was outclassed by the wily Bernard Hopkins in Atlantic City, but remains the WBC and WBO middleweight champion and will likely move back down. Ring This content is protected What do folks think?
The BBC's list has always been dodgy. Didn't they have Enzo above Haye in the British P4P list until Haye destroyed him? I agree for the most part with the Ring's list although I wouldn't have Williams in there. Darchinyan deserves to be in there - you don't get many undisputed champions these days. The BBC seem to have forgotten about R Marquez. He lost a razor thin decision against Vazquez and we must remember that he was the one moving up in weight before the trilogy. He should be at most two places below Vazquez.
Get ready to fire........ I have Calzaghe #1 Pac #2 and JMM #3 I had Calzaghe #2 but very close to pac for #1 prior to Jones. Only because Pac had moved up and won a title I gave him #1. I did not place much credit against the opponent he beat but he did move up and win a title. I think the performance against a past prime jones is better than Pac beating Diaz a guy who has a big heart but is very limited when you are talking about top class fighters. I moved Calzaghe above Pac after the jones fight. I think this will become more clear after pac loses to DLH where everyone will have to rethink the p4p list unless they favour a guy who lost his last fight at top spot (the variable is how he loses of course). #3 Jmm, Casamayor lost to santa cruz but was gifted the decision in a daylight robbery decision. Casa then struggles to get past an average and extremely hittable Katsidis. He was an easier fight for JMM than jones was for Calzaghe imo both opponents past their primes but Jones had a higher level to fall from and imo is a better/tougher fight than Casamayor at this point in time. Jonoli you may now tell me how bad jones is........ Mike I think you will also like my choice
As far as im concerned P4P is a load of bollocks, its completely down to opinion it completely takes away what boxing is all about and i am not a fan of the system.
Come on Champ1000, if your really harsh you can ask why Joe failed at getting a shot Jones out of there - he really should have done - and penalise him for that. Jones is shot to shite, and could only see through one eye for half the fight. Anyway, I think it's fair Joe stayed where he was - and my faith in boxing has been restored! It was purely a pension, and a money fight that shouldn't be rewarded through rankings. It will be interesting to see what happens to Pacman after the Oscar fight. I also feel it's possible Hatton might reappear, perhaps sneaking in lower end, depending on how he does against Pauli. On the pac thing, OK Diaz isn't great, but Pac didn't just beat him; he destroyed, and dispatched him in style to became a 4 weight champ.
I think Joe really could have gone after the cut more late on and his work rate dropped in the last 3 rounds. I thought he let Jones finish. Jones still had good handspeed and I had roy landing cleaner early on in the fight. I took into consideration what people call joe's slaps and judged the rounds harder and gave credit to Jones when he caught Joe with a solid shot. I rated that higher than Pac beating a very limited Diaz, yeah it was impressive fashion but so was Pavlik Vs Lockett. Even Jones being removed from his prime he is still a better fighter than a lot out there. p4p current roy jones is above diaz. It's only because the prime Jones was a tremendous athlete that people judge him so harshly now. I gave pac the #1 spot because he moved up and won the title. Joe had not fought so pac sneaked into top spot. Joe's performance against Roy put him back to #1 spot for the reasons above imo.
I think JMM beat Pac actually, and took on a better opponent than Pac did at 135 in Casa rather than Diaz, who was handpicked clearly. My 2p worth 1. JMM 2. Pac 3. Calzaghe 4. Vazquez 5. Hopkins 6. Margarito 7. Rafa Marquez 8. Cotto 9. Calderon 10. Hatton 1. Calzaghe 2. Hatton 3. Haye 4. Froch 5. Witter 6. Cook 7-10. Any four from about ten!
That BBC list is dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. Who is their correspondent for boxing? They've been penny pinching IMO.
The Sky P4P lists have always been pretty bad as well. I remember the one this time last year, with Hatton at 3. The next minute, nowhere to be seen, then back up to 6 again! A sensible boxing writer, or fan even, would have ranked Hatton no higher than 6 since 2005, and no lower than 12 in the same time frame.
1. Calzaghe 2. Pacquiao 3. JM Marquez 4. Margorito 5. Vasquez 6. Hopkins 7. Williams 8. Cotto 9. Calderon 10. John UK List 1. Calzaghe 2. Hatton 3. Haye 4. Froch 5. Cook 6. Witter 7. Arthur 8. Napa 9. Macceranelli 10. Mitchell johnny nelson has the worst p4p list of all time. haye is number 2 and juan carlos gomez is top 10.
Gotta put both Calderon and Rafa Marquez in there somewhere. Mine (just done on the spot - probably forgetting somebody): 1 Manny Pacquiao 2 Joe Calzaghe 3 Juan Manuel Marquez 4 Israel Vasquez 5 Bernard Hopkins 6 Antonio Margarito 7 Ivan Calderon 8 Vic Darchynian 9 Rafael Marquez 10 Miguel Cotto/Paul Williams
Nelson was pretty biased toward cruiserweights - he was in no hurry to fight Carlos Gomez, a fight which could have been made pretty easily given that Nelson was seldom worried about travelling. He is also racist as well.