New Ring Mag. P4P Top 10 (w/ achievements to compare)

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  1. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    (titles in italics denote current ones)


    1. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (Grand Rapids, MI, USA)
    RECORD: 39-0 (25)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 486 (no change this week)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, Ring, WBC Champ @ 130; Ring, WBC Champ @ 135; WBC Champ @ 140; Linear, Ring, WBC Champ @ 147; WBC Champ @ 154
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 3-0 (1)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 1-0 (1)

    2. Manny Pacquiao (General Santos City, Philippines)
    RECORD: 46-3-2 (35)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 229 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, WBC Champ @ 112; IBF Champ @ 122; Linear, Ring Champ @ 126; Linear, Ring, WBC Champ @ 130
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 2-0 (1)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 1-0-1

    3. Joe Calzaghe (Newbridge, Wales, UK)
    RECORD: 45-0 (32)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 112 (moves up from #5)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, Ring, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO Champ @ 168; Ring Champ @ 175
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 4-0
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 1-0

    4. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico City, Mexico)
    RECORD: 48-4-1 (35)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 58 (moves down from #3)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: WBA, IBF, WBO Champ @ 126; WBC Champ @ 130
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 1-2-1
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 0-1-1

    5. Bernard Hopkins (Philadelphia, PA, USA)
    RECORD: 48-5-1 (32)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 98 (moves down from #4)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, Ring, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO Champ @ 160; Ring Champ @ 175
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 4-4 (1)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 0-1

    6. Israel Vazquez (Mexico City, Mexico)
    RECORD: 43-4 (31)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 38 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Ring, WBC, IBF Champ @ 122
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 3-1 (2)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 2-1 (1)

    7. Miguel Cotto (Caguas, Puerto Rico)
    RECORD: 32-0 (26)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 46 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: WBO Champ @ 140; WBA Champ @ 147
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 6-0 (2)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 0-0

    8. Ricky Hatton (Manchester, England, UK)
    RECORD: 43-1 (31)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 152 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, Ring, IBF Champ @ 140; WBA Champ @ 147
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 1-1
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 0-1

    9. Kelly Pavlik (Youngstown, OH, USA)
    RECORD: 33-0 (29)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 7 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Linear, Ring, WBC, WBO Champ @ 160
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 2-0 (1)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 0-0

    10. Rafael Marquez (Mexico City, Mexico)
    RECORD: 37-5 (33)
    WEEKS IN RATINGS: 120 (no change)
    ACCOMPLISHMENTS: IBF Champ @ 118; Ring, WBC Champ @ 122
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT RING RATED FIGHTERS: 3-2 (2)
    RECORD AGAINST CURRENT TOP 10 P4P: 1-2 (1)
     
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  2. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't think that Cotto is 6-0 against current Top 10 fighters in the 2 weight classes he has fought in. The guy deserves some credit, especially after his win over a HOF in Mosley, aged or not.
     
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  3. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagree. This was the first time Calzaghe fought a Top 10 P4P in his LOOOOOOOONG career, and even then, against a 43-year-old version, he barely scraped by (I had JC winning 7-5 with 1 point deducted for the KD).

    If Pacquiao scraped by Marquez, then Calzaghe scraped by Hopkins.

    Calzaghe was knocked down, Pacquiao was not.

    Pacquiao has fought 4 fighters when they were P4P Top 10 (at the time), Calzaghe has fought one.

    Pacquiao has 2 KO's in these fights, Calzaghe has none.

    But that doesn't mean your argument doesn't deserve discussion, either.

    I just think Pacquiao has done more in more weight classes over a more recent period of time.
     
    Sweet Pea Pacquiao, Apr 25, 2008
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  4. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Why is Hatton in that list?
     
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  5. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac only 2-0 on current Ring rated fighters??? That's tricky!!! Why not count wins against Rated fighters he Retired??? Where's Pac wins against EM & MAB??? that's 5 wins that's not showing there!!!

    You should count the wins against Top 10 Ring Rated fighters on the time of the fight. That will be a good barometer of how good their quality on wins.
     
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  6. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Cotto should be higher than Vazquez
     
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  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Hatton p4p top 10??? This list is pretty much ****
     
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  8. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto has been more successful than JMM while moving up in weight ..Cotto should be rated higher imo ..
     
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  9. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    looks about right to me..
     
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  10. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except for hatton, looks right.
     
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  11. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yep. and pac is also linear @130.
     
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  12. Hawks28

    Hawks28 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, but not by much. And I would put both of them ahead of Hopkins right now. I also agree with those saying Hatton shouldnt be in there.
     
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  13. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    No hatton and Cotto above Vasquez and ur good! maybe even higher than Hopkins
     
    USboxer1981, Apr 25, 2008
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  14. Spitbucket

    Spitbucket Guest

    Vazquez has two wins over a current PFPer, Cotto has none.

    Hopkins and Hatton are a bit high though :think
     
    Spitbucket, Apr 25, 2008
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  15. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Cotto would, But one of them keeps on running from him :patsch
     
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