(new Ring Magazine) Mayweather vs. All Time Greats

I'm not really a Froch fan. He just didn't embarass himself by running like a girl, unlike Dirrell.

Anyway, none of those fights happened. You think if Floyd wanted to, he couldn't have fought any of those? He's a big draw and be can make any fight he wants. Williams, Mosely, Berto, Cotto etc. He simply won't.

 

Yeah?
You think I don't know about that video?
Shane has explained his stance, just like floyd.
I didn't say Shane was Mr. Honesty either, but Floyd = Lie central.
If you really want me to post videos of Floyd mayweather contradictions and lies, I will be more than happy to make you look stupid for defending him.

 

He ducks down? You mean he slips and rolls incoming shots? Sure he's susceptible to being hit, but at the same time you have to deal with his barrage of precise shots, so it's not nearly as likely as you would assume that he'd be getting tagged up with uppercuts in the mean time. And again, his granite chin would more than make up for that against Floyd.

Nonsense. He avoided nearly every one of Urbina's blows (Urbina was a top Lightweight and Jr. Welterweight contender of the day, made to look an absolute novice by Napoles) with subtle slips and rolls of the head. Not to mention his near flawless distance control, which saw him open up the distance in the bat of an eyelid whenever Urbina threw, and close it up immediately whenever he went on the offensive. I'm not trying to have a spat with you, just re-watch the footage and key in on those points I made. His ability to control the distance was second to none, and was a large part of his defense along with supreme anticipation.

Point out to me one flaw in his footwork that you noted in either of the vids I posted. Early on in this first vid he falls off balance for a split second when he slips during a body shot combination. Other than that, it is as flawless as any fighter who's ever entered the ring. Both technically and in terms of effectiveness.

Only with his hooks would any of his punches be considered wide, and only in that clip when, as has been discussed, he was on a rampage. He'd previously lost to Urbina by a cuts stoppage and in this fight he was leaving no doubt as to who was the better man, which is why he blitzed him from the get-go after hurting him early. He is open to be countered in theory, but again, his anticipation of punches was excellent. Small slips of the head and an excellent counter-reaction time made it much easier said than done for him to be countered without taking something (or many things) in return. Even if he was hit, he was one of the best at return firing. Think a guy like Barrera in that regard, with better defense and a much smoother style in general.

Again, no fighter in the history of the sport had better footwork than Napoles. Certainly not Mayweather, who backs up in straight lines often and is prone to being trapped against the ropes. I understand that's a large part of his game to counter off of, but his footwork is nothing special. Technically correct, sure, but he is no master ring general like Napoles.

Speed I might give you, though it doesn't mean much as Napoles was hardly slow himself. Timing and accuracy are close, but only made so by the fact that Napoles had a much higher workrate in that clip. Watch the other, his punch placement is excellent.

That is because of his low out-put and saftey first style. If he had an offensive out-put like Napoles I can guarantee you he'd be far less accurate.

You do that. Most of the fights available on Youtube are of a past-prime Napoles, such as against Monzon when he was toward the end of his reign and facing a comically larger man. Either way, he shows his toughness and resolve in that fight more than in perhaps any other.

 

An article like this is only further confirmation that the fight is well on its way.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=2645588

"Although Baldomir won't make close to the $8 million Mayweather will earn, his $1.5 million-plus purse to fight Mayweather in his hometown still will be his biggest ever."

What did mayweather say he made against Baldomir that made him not want to fight Margarito?
Hmmmmm

 

You don't think it could be to salvage mayweather's reputation after this latest fiasco?

 

No instead he looked like an amatuer, nearly got KO'd and had to hit behind the head and body slam just to accomplish anything. He looked like a joke as to why he's being treated like one by most everyone on this forum and Dirrells stock has risen.

Uhh yeah, because of the reason I just gave. Are you remedial?

Uhh I just explained to you he tried to make a fight with Cotto, Mosley and Margarito, 2 said no the 3rd was being managed by a slimy promoter who lied about what fights he could get Floyd.

You think a 154lb Oscar was less risky then MArgarito? Please.

His stock is such now that he can, as to why he's trying to fight someone who is head and shoulders above anyone on that list. Manny Pacquiao, but your boys afraid of needles. Dont worry, Mayweathers gonna save this fight, concede Manny doesnt have to get tested, and whip his ass anyway.

 

hahahaha thats shits ridiculous

 

He made 8 million. The same he would have gotten "allegedly" against Margarito had Arum not demanded he get rights over Floyds next 3 fights including a fight with Oscar.

Once again this is Arum, he lies all the time. Doubt he could have gotten 8 mil for Floyd. But thats besides the point.


Look its obvious you dont have firm grasp on Floyds career, so you should just back down now before you really get embarrassed.

 

Urbina was one of the top Lightweight and Jr. Welterweight contenders of the day, which I've already mentioned. You'd need to see more fights of his to note that, considering how badly Napoles outclassed him. And again, I could say the exact same thing in regards to Floyd. Easy to hit in theory, much harder to hit in reality due to their anticipation of punches.

That's the only portion of the vid where he does anything technically incorrect. He slipped, **** happens. I could point out Mayweather getting caught and falling off balance against Judah. Again, it happens. He was well out of range of Urbina at the time and had him hurt anyway, so it's not likely that anything was going to happen as a result of it.

Not a single one of those punches were wild. The bolo style uppercuts were simply a part of his repertoire. All of the left hooks were thrown perfectly, even if a few missed. When he had him against the ropes as you say, he threw 3 punches, two of which landed, and he then backed out of range of Urbina's return fire with ease.

That's a flaw?

When was he off balance? I've just watched it three times. His balance was not only off, but impeccable.

You cite one punch from Urbina that landed during the entire fight and are going to claim that the same punch from Floyd, who was not even a bigger puncher, would have had him hurt? Your analysis is comical.

He was neither sloppy nor wild, he was simply putting on intense, but very educated pressure to overwhelm Urbina. Name the fights you've seen, because I don't believe you at all.

 

"Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

So what does Floyd do? Goes out and gets 20 million vs De La Hoya. Get out Pac while you still can!

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382



Floyd haters. Owned.

 

Okay, now answer the question.
What did he say he made?

Don't beat around the bush dude, I like Floyd's boxing as much as the next fan, but you're shutting your brain down to keep your loyalty.

 

Floyd is light years ahead of those guys in terms of skill level.

 

Listen to the RA interview. Everyone knows a ducker when they hear one.
"Why would I fight for 8 million when they offered me 12 and i'm fighting for the title"

Lies. And he got called on them.

 

So you have proof right infront of your face, instead of getting some type of credibility back, you continue to play the role of absolute fool.

Arum says Floyd was willing to fight Margarito. Now Arum is like big daddy to all you *******s, you dont believe him?