New Ring Magazine P4P List 8/8/07

I wasn't alone in picking Hoya over Floyd. And it wasn't an "ignorant" pick either. It was a very close fight. I along with everyone else (about 15 people) at the house I was at scored the fight a draw. And being that Hoya has been competitive in every single fight he has ever been in pretty much exonerates anyone from the "ignorant" label for picking him to win any fight.

I wasn't bashing Calzaghe. But he should not have fought Manfredo.

 

I agree entirely, (w)right down to your scorecard. Hopkins made the leap to 175, and then Winky thought that he would have an advantage making Bernard come back down in weight. Winky could have had that bout anytime he wanted to for the last ten years and finally decided to man up when he felt things were in his favor.

All things considered over their careers, Winky fought 6 pounds south of Bernard, and in the old days they would have been in the same division.

I feel Bernard should get full credit for the win, especially considering many felt that Wright was even more successful against Taylor than Bernard was at middleweight.

 

:good

 

It was one of the most ignorant picks all year long and if you consider that fight close, then the only reason why is that you're a major DLH fan. 8-4 or 9-3, take your pick, but that's not close and Floyd didn't even open up on him.

I agree, but it's been a ***** to get any name in with Calzaghe for his entire career, so they went the route of taking on an easy American name for Joe to thrash and the goal was to open up the casual fan to Joe more so and then try to get the interest of a Taylor match up, which Taylor and camp refused before hand and refused after, asking for 10 million dollars.

So then they took the next best thing and went after Kessler, which was also a heavy ***** to get signed and it wasn't Calzaghe's camp and Warren who was the problem.

It's all about learning the right context. Taylor and camp are the cowards and Kessler and camp were a pain in the ass, where as Calzaghe was ready to sign any big name right after the Lacy fight, which that fight in turn made him one of boxing's biggest names and opened the doors needed to secure fights.

 

It put him back in my top 10 P4P after I took him out for the retirement, which didn't last long.

He gets plenty of credit, to me Hopkins is a top 25 ATG, that's a damn lot of credit.:yep

 

We always meet in the middle. I too have him in my top 30 all-time, and for TRULY educated fans, thats shitloads of credit.

 

if calzaghe beats kessler, he certainly becomes a top 5 p4p, above jmm, winky and taylor.

 

Here is an interesting thread comparing the resumes of Hopkins and Calzaghe - http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9500

 

Hey I'm a big Winky fan i thought he beat taylor but he lost to Hopkins and Taylor didn't lose to Spinks, so he had to drop. He didn't fall that far.

 

Just a question why is hatton in yall top ten?

 

If Taylor wants to stay on then he should campaign as a JMW cuz that's whom his recent opposition was against and some good JMW fighters...Ouma and Spinks. In Pavlik, he's finally fighting a MW. BTW, I thought Spinks outpointed him.

 

because he's a two weight title holder, undefeated, the man at 140, he beat koysta, and just ko'd castillo who's never been down before in 4 rounds.... shall i go on?

 

Just asking cuz I never heard of Hatton till his last 2 fights and I believe there were some other boxers who could have been place up there

 

Why all of a sudden Hopkins is in number 2. Defeating a much much much much smaller Wright did not prove anything.

 

He's fighting 108 champ Cazares at the end of the month :good

re: Winky - he beat Quartey (handily) at the end of last year. He moved up a class to beat one P4P fighter and draw another, then moved up 2 weight classes to lose to a guy 16 lbs over his natural fighting weight. His resume more than warrants him being ranked that high.