New Scoring Systems

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  1. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Recently, there has been some discussion of potential future scoring systems.

    The WBC is planning to implement a new type of scoring wherebye it basically seems the judges will use a computerized/button pressing system to score instead of pencil and paper. They will press a button when a punch lands, pressing in accordance with its significance.

    I also heard recently of some sort of "in-glove" technology. If I remember rightly, this would be able to measure the force of a punch upon its connection.

    To me, the WBC method seems interesting. If all judges are able to learn this and use it correctly, great. My main issues with this are incompetence and artifical incompetence. If a judge scores a close fight poorly, there is always that possibility he could argue he may have pressed the wrong buttons here and there. This is especially the case when there are supposedly going to be 7 buttons. We all know some judges seem to have difficulty tying their shoelaces never mind working 7 buttons while watching a fight.

    The glove thing sounds horrible. It would completely ruin the sports subjectivity, which to me is one of its greatest assets.

    Are there any other scoring systems you've heard being talked of? What's your thoughts on it all?
     
  2. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    in glove technology... bleh... what about shots landed agains arms and gloves... theyd register as hits...

    Button pushing for shots landed bleh... what about EFFECTIVENESS of punches and ring generalship. These cannot be button pushed. What we need is the same scoring that has worked for the last 100 years (this decade excluded) and competant judges! The judges are whats ruining the system. Perhaps more 10-8 rounds? Either way- technology is NOT the answer. We really just need educated professionals judging the events. A militar major just scored tonights bout. I don't know how military training TRANSLATES to boxing knowledge, but even lederman was saying he's had some botched decisions...
     
  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Awful idea. A new scoring method would be a better idea than anything else.
     
  4. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its the judges, stupid! The 10-point must system is not the problem. The problem is how it is usd and interpreted by all the different judges and commisions across boxing. Their is a serious lack of standardization and professional quality judging in boxing. The main reason for this is that no judge to my knowledge is a professional judges. Judges need to be professionalized the same way referees are in every other majour sport. The need a professional regulating body that is able to hold them to a higher level of professional compotense then a state athletics commission (which is basically a glorified volunteer club) possibly can. Professional body`s are subject to laws and legislation that demand a high level of transparancy and public accountability. They have the ability to punish poorly proforming or morally incompotent members by taking away their livelihood, and they have administrative structures that are far more affective at identifying and developing talent then useless state commissions are. You could also extent this to referees as well.

    Definitely this is half a pipe dream but in my opinion the best and most affective way to improve the officating of majour boxing events would be to professionalize it.
     
  5. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What kind of things do you think would/should be incorporated in a new scoring method?
     
  6. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well I'm aware that some judges are poor, but poor judging has been around forever. It hasn't just crept up all of a sudden.
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't like those other ideas. I think if any changes are going to be made, i say just add judges. The greater the consensus, the less impact that 1 or 2 bad judging performances can have. Boxing's scoring is totally subjective, and it always will be, so there is a certain level of human bias(intentional or not) that will be in effect. However, if u can lessen the impact of any one individual in the eventual results, you are much more likely to get a representative outcome.
     
  8. Brauer

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    Personally I don't like the fact that when a person wins a round in which no one did much, it counts the same as one that was dominated by one person.
     
  9. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's an interesting point. I hadn't looked at the idea of adding judges that way before.
     
  10. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Get rid of compubox/punchstat and unofficial scoring(Ledderman). Also have at least a former fighter as a commentator that tend to be less bias. Ever since the introduction of these punchstats, every fan in the damn world and fighter that loses bring these numbers up and excuses, when most of the time are misleading to the public. Trust me, people will ***** less.
     
  11. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just fight like a ***** and you will win nowaday.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I'm not entirely sure. It seems asking for competent and uncorrupted judges is too much to ask for. I guess more of an emphasis on even or close rounds. Ideally I'd like to see the fighters that clearly wins his rounds more easily, more often be rewarded with the victory. This sort of approach should help diminish a blow to robberies, at least of incompetence is the actual culprit. Who knows.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Exactly. I'm not even passionate about a new scoring system, but it's hardly the worse idea. Far better than a tallying system or some technology gadget that scores fights.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    What relevance does this has for the actual scoring? It's not as if judges are looking at a punch-stat monitor with HBO commentating in their headphones.


    I think people will always find a way to *****. Particularly the trolls who don't care about the actual sport and bring punch stats up to apologetically defend their idols.
     
  15. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    i like the new glove technology and i believe it should be used in conjunction with...not as a replacement. also...training...standardization....sobriety and vision tests are all needed.