NEW SURVEY - Top 10 to 25 Boxers in Each Decade (1890s-2010s)

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  1. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    This is going to take me a long time. Another great survey @Rumsfeld

    IX 1970s
    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Carlos Monzon
    4. George Foreman
    5. Alexis Arguello
    6. Wilfredo Gomez
    7. Wilfred Benitez
    8. Carlos Zarate
    9. Joe Frazier
    10. Jose Napoles

    X. 1980s
    1. Sugar Ray Leonard
    2. Marvellous Marvin Hagler
    3. Michael Spinks
    4. Thomas Hearns
    5. Mike Tyson
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Julio Cesar Chavez
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. Wilfred Benitez
    11. Wilfredo Gomez
    12. Mike McCallum
    13. Salvador Sanchez
    14. Azumah Nelson
    15. Aaron Pryor
    16. Hector Camacho
    17. Jeff Fenech
    XI. 1990s
    1. Roy Jones
    2. Pernell Whittaker
    3. Julio Cesar Chavez
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Felix Trinidad
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. James Toney
    9. Bernard Hopkins
    10. Floyd Mayweather Jr
    11. Marco Antonio Barrera
    12. Erik Morales
    13. Naseem Hamed
    14. Lennox Lewis
    15. Evander Holyfield
    16. Terry Norris
    17. Hector Camacho
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    1. Austinboxing #6
    2. Dynamicpuncher #7
    3. Mastrangelo #17
    4. Rubber Glove Sandwich #19
    5. McGrain #20
    6. turpinr #24
    7. CharlieFirpo85 #34
    8. mattdonnellon #36, #41
    9. Greg Price99 #39
    10. White Bomber #43
    11. Frankus #46
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @Rumsfeld Updated my list and finally finished the decades 2010s, 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, i will try and finish off the rest of the decades before the deadline.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Question for @Rumsfeld — rules say at least 10 per decade up to 25 … are we free to have 10 in some decades and more than 10 in others? Or if we have, say, only 10 for the 1900 decade then we can’t go 25 for the 1970s (where in my case the more recent times I have more confidence in my deeper picks to rank)?
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You can mix it up however you like as long as you have no fewer than 10 and no more than 25 for whichever decades you choose to participate. And you can choose whatever decades you want.

    For random example, you can have 10 for the 1910s, 17 for the 1940s, 25 for the 1970s, and 10 for the 1990s. Or however you choose to break it down.

    As long as someone has 10 names for a given decade, those names will be logged for that particular decade.
     
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  6. Greg Price99

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    Great effort.

    Just so you know, you've only listed 9 names for the 50's, missing out number 7.

    The most glaring difference between our lists is your ranking of Dempsey at no. 1 in the 20's, whilst he doesn't make my top 25 for that decade. He went 6-2 in the 20's & I feel there were 25 fighters with deeper bodies of work in that decade.

    Certainly it's difficult for me to see Dempsey above Greb based on what each fighter did in the 20's. Dempsey's 6 x wins in the decade are Jack Sharkey, Tommy Gibbons, Billy Miske, Luis Firpo, Georges Carpentier and Bill Brennan. Greb went 114-8-5 in the decade and his wins include - Tommy Gibbons x 2, Tommy Loughran x 4, Jimmy Delaney x 3, Maxie Rosenbloom, Mickey Walker, Jimmy Slattery, 17.5lbs heavier Kid Norfolk, Gene Tunney, 24lbs heavier Charley Weinhert, Jeff Smith x 3, Clay Turner x 2, Bob Moha x 3, Johnny Wilson x 2, 8lbs heavier Gunboat Smith, Ted Moore x 2, Tiger Flowers, Lou Bogash and Bryan Downey. Which is absurd.

    I'm curious, have you used criteria other than evaluating the body of work of the decade in question? e.g. historical significance, or just simply how good you suspect the fighters were at their peak point in that decade?

    Hope you don't mind the question, no criticism intended, just curious.
     
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  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks.

    Didn't notice. I've probably missed someone when I posted it.
    I'll edit it.

    O course I used other criteria, I put a lot of emphasis on impact on the sport.
    The 1920s has been called the Golden Age of American Sports. New and bigger sports arenas were built. The introduction of radio made it easier for fans to keep up with their favorite teams and sportsmen. Newspapers increased their coverage of sports. Improvements in roads made it possible for fans to travel to athletic events in distant cities. For the first time, large numbers of Americans began to pay money to watch other people compete in athletic contests.
    The only sportsman that was more famous than Dempsey in the United States at that times was
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    , since baseball was the “national pastime” in the 1920s.
    Jack Dempsey brought huge attention to boxing and helped it to grow/expand.

    Don't mind it one bit, thanks for the feedback.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Good catch!
     
  9. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've edited it, was missing out on Sonny.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

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    Thank you for the strong effort and fast remedy!

    :thumbsup:
     
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  11. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No problem.
    Hope one of my idols (Hagler and Tyson) wins top stop in the 80s, but I'm afraid the runner SRL might edge them.
     
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  12. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    I hope @Rumsfeld doesn’t mind the comment potentially clogging up the thread. I was seriously debating putting Mike Tyson top of the 80s. I mean he transcended the sport arguably to the levels of Ali and gave it a rebirth of sorts to the masses. He was a pop culture legend. His bouts were more anticipated than anything I have experienced in the sport since. (I’m just a young whippersnapper in these parts being a young 40). But his achievements although spectacular (youngest HW champion of all time, most first round KOs as a HW at the time I think), just fell short of what others achieved throughout the 80s. I would have no disputes or arguments for MT being named the greatest boxer of the 80s.
     
  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he was unbeaten in the 80s and unified all the HW belts, so his achievements trump anyone else's in the 80s. Overall, other ATG's from the 80s, like Hagler, Duran etc had better careers, but if we only evaluate the 80s, Tyson is king. Also, as you pointed out, he was the biggest draw in boxing, that's also part of greatness.