NEW VIDEO : 24 day cut off? Pacquiao takes blood test 20 days before Clottey fight

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  1. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    if only aparently it just a random physical so i doubt there testing for all the drugs
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry man. I can see where you are going with that and I agree to an extent. I tried to say it in the past that Arum is ruining the WW division just to double dip in fight purses.

    At the same time, I could only fully agree with that if Manny was 12-0. Manny is a grown man and experienced fighter. Pac fans want it both ways. Manny owned all that nonsense leading up to the FMJ fight by ripping FMJ to the press.

    He is just making himself look silly. :verysad
     
  3. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    manny hasnt realy his team have made him look stupid , like ive said they nerly got away with it and nearly got all the **** to stick but its unraveling now
     
  4. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Nothing you just said is relevant or makes any sense.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, the press reported Manny said no to these deals not Arum.

    Do you remember when FMJ first agreed to all terms in the fight? That was back when everyone though blood testing was no big deal. Arum personally said to the press, "I don't see any reason why this fight can't be made..." He went so far as to almost call Manny out on it. Arum then made a trip to the Philippines. When he returned his whole tune changed and the "test" games began.

    You seem to want to continue to see Manny as a basically decent guy and I understand that, but as much as I want to throw all of this on Arum it doesn't seem to pan out that way.
     
  6. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Manny said taking his blood weakens him and he cant spar for 2 days afterwards. He said that. He was interviewed and he repeated this. Roach said this. Manny is not a ****ing kid.. you cant play that little asian guy role no more. He is a grown ass man.
     
  7. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's pretty obvious now that Pacquiao is either on PEDs or never really wanted to fight Mayweather in the first place. On ESPN, he said the 14 day test would weaken him and effect his training, but he's taking a 20 day test during training. I don't understand how fans can still defend this, while honestly believing they have a valid stance. This proves what we all knew to begin with, which is, Pacquiao nor anyone else is physically weakened by blood test. So much for this guy being an honest warrior who will always fight the best.
     
  8. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    he rarely does
     
  9. icebergisonfire

    icebergisonfire Floyd F*ckin Mayweather! Full Member

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    Even this has been rebunked homie, read on

    It is the amount of inconsistencies that has people saying that the pacquaio camp is dodging floyd. No one has to look no further than the blood testing.

    At first it was 30 days, then the 24/7 vid came out

    http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/29/does-hbos-24-7-series-foil-pacquiaos-blood-testing-assertion/

    Doesn't really sound like having blood drawn weakens him if he is firing blistering combinations the next day.

    Now, we are at the 20 day point with this latest issue of blood being drawn.

    All it shows is that Top Rank's 24 day assertion was garbage and they had no intention of fighting Floyd in March. They just wanted to entertain it for the fans while Bob Arum was threatening to cancel negotiations at every turn. Especially with them using Forbes in the training camp and Roach saying that he needs to get Pacquaio to 'see what he sees.' They knew that the boy wasn't ready. That's why the 10 million per pound thing was thrown out there. Arum and company was hoping that their line in the sand wouldn't be crossed and they could then point the finger at Floyd for being the reason that the fight didn't take place. Instead, Floyd walked over the line and Top Rank, not knowing what to do because they got their card pulled, ran to their cars and went home.
     
  10. Toopretty

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    The funny thing is all of the *******s are right now trying to find information from there home base "pacland"..lol to refute this video. Or find a way to lie about the blood test being done for roids.. even when the TSAC said they did not request it nor the WBO. They may make some last minute changes. One dude had the audacity to say they took two viles and one had to be steroids.... I think that guy never been to a doctor. lol
     
  11. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    im a mayweather fan i just dont think that manny himself is this deceptive and sneaky, i think hes defintly had words in his ear



    also can i just say if roles were reversed no way in hell *******s would let floyd live this video down
     
  12. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If it was all about principal he would not have even thought about compromising and including any types of testing from Floyd.

    Not testing positive doesn't mean you're innocent. Mosley and Holyfield can tell you that.
     
  13. bigdog2001

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    clearly this was not a random test. It was a physical to test for hiv and any other diseases or viruses that can be passed on through blood pathogens.

    It sickens me that people cannot be rational here and act like grown men. This is a slap in the face of the boxing fans not Mayweather. We could have had a great fight but he refused to take the blood test that were random. Are pac fans showing character by still trying to twist this just for the sake of trying to salvage the reputation of a sneaky guy who probably does not give a **** about you???

    Those of you still defending him please be rational. Stop being a fan and start being a man.

    OH the other not i belive his stack looks something like this as i have prevously posted.

    Ilgrf, Hgh, Halostestin, and anavar. along with some masking agents

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  14. dodong

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    part of a complete physical checkup is where they do a complete blood count where effects of synthetic EPO can be seen (if he had taken them).

    This is what they could mean when they're testing Manny for PED. If Pac's hematocrit level on this test is extremely high where it can't be possibly attained without taking EPO, he's outed as a cheater.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I've been saying this for a while now. Pacquaio simply wasn't ready to fight Floyd in March.