Newbie boxing question!

dont think so

 

Min weight is set by the commission were the fight is being held, and/or by contracts between the fighters. I think that only Heavyweight has a hard min it use to be 195 which was set in the late 1970's but what use to be 190 cruiserweight is now 200 so im not sure what the Heavyweight min is if there is even still one.

 

Yes according to the rules you do need to be within that limit.
But normally it is not a problem since fighter can do weight in wearing whatever he wants.

Jones had to build up for his fight with Ruiz he had to do 200 on the weight in.
don't remember but I think I read somewhere that he weighted less on the fight night

 

your fight I forgot about that. It was said that Jones had weights in his pockets, which would make sense because he was 193 at fight time

 

It's written in the Boxing Regulations of WBC, WBO etc...

Heavyweight is "over 200".

They also have rules like "Boxer may not be heavier than 5% of the division limit at weigh-in".

Actually I think they screwed up the terms by calling 200+ "heavyweight" instead of giving it a new name like "Superheavyweight".

This completely deludes fans into thinking that Rocky Marciano had a chance against ANY of the current heavies just because "Rocky was called a heavyweight". Today fans erratically think that Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling was heavyweight, while it was actually cruiserweight. Rocky Marciano was a 5'0'' cruiser and has fought 0 heavyweight fights (both boxers 200+) in his entire career and yet he is compared to Vitali Klitschko who most probably would walk through him in 1-3 rounds.

Just as ground for comparison:
Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling was 130(!) pounds lighter than Danny Williams vs Vitali Klitschko.

The same applies to a lot of pasttime boxers, who were great boxers but come on, there is a 50-150 pound difference to nowadays fights.

I mean just check out this picture:
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/louis3333.jpg
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17230&more=1
and tell me whether they look like nowadays heavyweights.

 

totally agree good post.

what also causes alot of grief is that fighters in the 200 plus dont have to train or get fit they just need a good set of hands and a mouthpiece. where as the cruisers are filled with guys who have to train and make wieght. some fighters go to heavy now becuase it is just an excuse to eat what you want.

jeremy williams would of been a solid cruiser contender and had a great performance in his last fight at 200 pounds but the money was at heavy and thus he ate and became a flabby 220 pounder.

most skilled heavys today are usually abel to get to the cruiser limit or are just on the button.

also i dont think valuev could beat marciano (real lame example i know) but there is a point when skill and will cant overcome a decent skilled far bigger man.
i am dead certain that lewis could beat louis

it's a hard subject as purists feel that it would disrupt the sport to split a division down the middle like that. in a way that would of made holyfield go from heavywieght to super heavy...you get what im saying?


and one more thing i believe that wbu or iba or some minor belt has a "super cruiseriweght limit" which is 210 while there cruiser limit is 195.
makes some sense i feel but still it woudl just split a already shattered division

 

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The answer is no

 

no as long as he is that weight or under on the weigh in day he is ok.he can put as much weight on as he likes to fight then.

 

Now THAT is a myth.

Marciano has one of the most bummed-up records I have ever seen. Add then 2) the time (second world war, many boxers were troops) 3) that he mostly boxed whites only 4) his lighter gloves (increases KO ratio) 5) his little weight (was never in a heavyweightfight 200+ as we define it) and you get one of the most overrated boxers ever. Some call Muhammad overrated, some Tyson, and some Klitschko. But Marciano beats them all = is more overrated than the others. Marciano would have only below-mediocre chance nowadays.

 

Has everyone read this completely different from me?

If the fight is scheduled for Welterweight (147lbs), then that is the maximum weigh in weight, the minimum would be 141lbs, as 140 is light welterweight. At least that's how I understood it.

 

No I think you're free to come in at any weight you please as long as it is under the limit. Can't think of many reasons why a fighter WOULD come in a whole division lighter, but I think they are free to do so if they want. I remember speculation that Floyd would come into the DLH bout around 147, although he was about 150 or so.

 

I think you can come at any weight under, but in practice, fighters don't agree to fight someone against whom they would come in a lot under the weight limit who comes in at or just under the weight limit because that would put them at a major disadvantage.

Fighters tend to fight in their weighclass, under it if they can drain themselves enough, or just above if they think they can get away with it.

Another reason why I think fights between two fighters who come in at very different weights don't happen is because such fights would not get sanctioned in the first place, for safety reasons, or for the sake of the credibility of the contest, and hence, of the credibility and reputation of the profession.

Finally, fans would not be interested in such a mismatch, so the fight would not sell well. Promoters would have no incentives to try and make such match-ups.

The reason de la Hoya gets away with fighting Pacquiao is because they are the two most influential fighters in boxing and hence have a lot of clout over what goes on, because Golden Boy Promotions is the biggest promoter and can sell it, because Pacquiao, whilst smaller and lighter is much better than de la Hoya, because there is so much money at stake that it is difficult for Pacquiao to say no to it and because Pacquiao fans truly believe he can beat de la Hoya and hence that the fight is credible. It is a special case, though, clearly.

Even so, this fight is an abomination unto the Lord and bad for boxing, because it is reminiscent of Mayweather's "fight" against Big Show. :-(

 

That's how I understood it to be, also, Doc Holiday. But maybe I'm wrong. :?