News article says Langford was 138 pounds for Johnson and floored him

Hand on heart,do you honestly believe this ****?
Fact1. We know Langford did not floor Johnson.
Fact 2.We know Johnson floored him twice for long nine counts.
Fact 3.We know Johnson broke his nose.
Fact4. We know neither man weighed in, so where do those figures come from?
Fact5."Johnson was nearly 60lbs heavier than138lbs? " That would make him around 196/197 lbs The fight took place in1906 ,Johnson scaled 192 lbs at the end of 1908 when he beat Burns!

I guess the hater is getting desperate now!LOl

 

Bad point, Johnson's weight was inconsistent

All of the other points are the word of boxrec, which is kind of unreliable for fights dating pre 1920s

True or not, incredible find

 

Wow, wasn´t Johnson a HW ATG?

I mean on paper, wearing a good pair of spectacles, he should beat the likes of Bruno, Lyle or Mercer ???

 

Good find. Interesting. But as stated above, you will need further corroboration to convince me. Those old news accounts can be quite wrong. That said, this one seems pretty detailed.

 

Do u see johnson losing to those three?

 

Just read 5 next day or same week accounts of the fight. Not a mention of Johnson being even dazed let alone KD'd. Every article uses the term "one-sided" and mentions Langford visiting the canvas in the 6th (the Waterbury Democrat claims he went down twice). In regards to weight, Johnson is twice mentioned to be 195 and Sam is generally referred to as "a middleweight at his largest"...

Doesn't seem to be any corroboration to the OP article. One would think that Johnson getting so badly hurt would be mentioned. Highly skeptical.

 

I think this report is very dubious. It's a report from years after, we have reports from the time that say the Langford didn't floor Johnson, but it was later claimed that he did to try and get a title shot.

Also it seems odd he'd turn up to fight a heavyweight at a career low weight.

Senya posted some contemporary reports
[url]http://senya13.blogspot.com/2011/04/1906-04-26-jack-johnson-w-pts15-sam.html[/url]

 

I don't think the detail really backs it up, I've found other reports from years later with a fair bit of detail, but were total bull****.

 

Nope Johnson weight consistantly went up as he grew into his frame ,his weight only became inconsistant once he was champion and started carousing .You got one thing right though, it is "incredible," as in the dictionaries definition=Impossible To Believe!
Johnson's weight was estimated at 185lbs for the 1906 Langford fight over two years later he scaled 192lbs when he challenged Burns. Produce ONE primary source that shows Johnson scaled 196/197lbs in1906.I can tell you, you won't!

 

I have to admid that I like the style of Johnson nullifying the opponents attack. Conflict: These fighters differ significantly from modern HWs, sometimes fighting low pace for dozens of rounds.

I wouldn´t bet a penny on JJ beating anyone of these.

 

Nat Fleischer's Father in Law was ringside he said Langford was never in the fight. Joe Woodman Langford's manager admitted to Fleischer that he fabricated the KD of Johnson to garner some publicity.Johnson wrote a 2 page article in the Ring refuting this story and citing several ringside witnesses including Tad Dorgan as corroboration. of course our ,"resident Johnson hater," will post anything derogatory about Johnson ,whether it is true or not has never concerned him in the past and surely will not in the future! I've read several next day reports of this fight some are in Pollack's Johnson bio all directly contradict this garbage.
I sincerely hope Mendoza continues to post these fairy tales ,they only negatively reflect on himself which must be a good thing!
"Sam Langford was beaten badly by Jack Johnson at Chelsea last night, but earned the cheers of his admirers and many more besides by a superb exhibition of grit and courage that makes other local exhibitions of gameness in the ring fade almost into insignificance."

"Sam went down three times. On the first occasion it looked as if he slipped or stumbled to his knees, as the accompanying punch was not heavy. He was knocked down with a powerful left hook in the middle of the sixth round and lay on his face. He was down just nine seconds, according to Timekeeper Murphy, a thoroughly honest man, and the referee, Maffit Flaherty, who says he was on his feet at the call of nine, and according to several watches in the hands of men around the ring.

Down Again.

Later on in the same round he was down again for nine seconds. On the first knockdown it looked as if he couldn't continue. But he arose within the specified ten seconds. The second time he went to the floor from a right hand smash on the jaw."

"It was a one-sided fight. It was all Johnson all the way. Sam did well on his left stabs and showed at times an inclination to shoot the right over for Jack's jaw. But he was outclassed too much naturally to make it any kind of an even fight."

 

No damage control ,nobody who posted believed your article!Including YOU!
How is reading an article written 5 years after the event more relevant than those written the day after the fight by ringside observers?
Explain that please?
Whoever wrote that **** couldn't even get Langford and Johnson's height right.
FYI. Langford was 5' 7.5" Johnson 6',0.25"

I should charge you for the education really, not that it makes any difference ,you will repeat the same old hackneyd and discredited lies as long as you are on this Forum! Its your sole Raison D'etre!