Next move for the new IBF middleweight champion Darren Barker

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There is a Geale rematch. Lucrative option to be staged in possibly three different countries. Fairly high risk to reward given how close it was. (though I had Barker 116-111...he was the better overall man on the night but there were a few scares and going by the stats it was a seesaw affair)

    There is his current de facto mandatory Felix Sturm. It would sell well at home, as UK audiences have become very familiar with Sturm and view him in a villainous light due to Murray and Macklin falling short in their challenges for the belt now on Barker's waist. Seeing Barker make his first defense against the long-declining Sturm and possibly giving him a beating would be very satisfying to many Brits, as would forcing Sturm to hit the road as he made others do for so long with Barker now having the leverage to insist, dangling the bait of Sturm's old possession in front of him.

    There is the "real" de jure mandatory Sam Soliman. Currently Soliman is serving a nine-month ban for alleged PED use which he is still protesting (first claiming it to have been a false positive and then blaming an ingredient of a caffeinated supplement beverage he imbibed thinking it contained no banned substances). As soon as his penalty clock runs out, he is the #1 contender again displacing Sturm. This would provide for a "revenge" angle (followed by the very attractive notion of a potential domestic world title showdown between Soliman and Geale) for Australian fans and perhaps make sense financially to have down there, but maybe wouldn't generate a lot of excitement in Great Britain. It would probably be a decent one to watch, in some ways similar to Geale vs. Barker given Soliman's work rate, but with Sam it nearly always gets a bit untidy and ugly. This wouldn't sell in the US either.

    Of course it could be a damned-if-you-do situation among the aforementioned three. Take on the mandatory Sturm and be said to have ducked a Geale rematch. Take a Geale rematch and be said to have ducked your mandatory Sturm. Wait for Soliman - the actual mandatory who earned the #1 spot in an eliminator fair and square - and be said to have ducked both.

    There is unification. That means Golovkin, Quillin, and/or a Martinez rematch. Barker would be immune to criticism for the rest of his career if he chanced getting in with any of them early in his reign. They are not all impossible feats (especially with Martinez - once the clear h2h frontrunner at 160 and the only middleweight making p4p lists as high as #3 - having begun to appear very mortal of late, starting with Martinez vs. Barker I and tumbling rapidly downhill from there...) Quillin lets him keep his foot in the door of the American market, following up on the positive visibility the Geale war gained him. Stylistically it honestly isn't a great look for Barker, yet he could pull it off if he boxed intelligently as he is capable of doing. Golovkin is a bridge too far but you would need to designate Barker the GOAT p4p of brass balls if he pursued that destiny.

    There is his unsettled business at home with his peers. There has been rabid demand for Barker vs. Macklin, Barker vs. Murray, or Barker vs. Lee since before any of them got a whiff of a world title. (at one time McEwan was in that mix as the "fifth Beatle", but his spot has probably been appropriated by Saunders by now) At the very least Murray and Macklin can make strong cases for deserving a charity shot at redemption and you would be hard-pressed to find someone too critical of them getting another try. These would be HUGE events, making a lot of money.

    In my opinion those represent his ten or so best options from where he stands. They aren't the only creditable routes he can take, but they are the most. He actually has a wealth of different options to both pad his coffers and put together a respectable title run.

    Floating around the division you have the resurgent Danny Jacobs, the imminently returning Dmitry Pirog, the dangerous but profitably named Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., the perennially ranked and tenacious Marco Antonio Rubio, the very talented and no-longer-under-house-arrest Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam, the enigmatic Matt Korobov, the good boy Gabriel Rosado...

    Any of those would be acceptable. Someone from the main three groups listed above (the IBF claimants Geale, Sturm and Soliman; the other champs Golovkin, Quillin and Martinez; and the fellow Brit contenders Macklin, Lee and Murray) would be ideal.
     
  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Were I Barker, I would seek out a domestic opponent-- good money potential and quite likely the path of least resistance.

    Incidentally I cannot wait to see Pirog return to action, presuming he's healthy.
     
  3. burzumboy

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    I'd like to see him beat Sturm and then go for Murray. Should he win that fight then a unification fight would be ideal.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :good

    ITT have been named almost twenty opponents which to me would merit respect. (Geale, Sturm, Soliman, Golovkin, Quillin, Martinez, Macklin, Murray, Lee, Saunders, Jacobs, Pirog, Chavez, Rubio, N'Dam N'Jikam, Korobov, Rosado...)

    It'd be a damn shame if we end up seeing him go down a "safe path" defending against the likes of Predrag Radosevic, Anthony Mundine, and Jose Miguel Torres - all top 15 in the IBF. :err

    Barker has earned my respect over the years, but all it takes is a year or two of holding a world title hostage to completely & justifiably dash opinions toward a boxer.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nice plan. I kind of can't decide what order I think would be the best for him, but I would love to see Geale II, Sturm (rather than Soliman, admittedly, despite Soliman having the better claim and likely getting the short end of the stick unfairly here, especially if he was innocent of knowingly using a PED), Macklin and/or Murray, and then yeah top it all off with a stab at unification. YOLO!
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    OH DAMN IT I HATE THAT. :mad:

    The stupid bb code messed up where it ought to say "unranked in the IBF top 15 since 2008" next to Lee in the poll. I forgot you can't have a close-parenthesis next to a number 8, or it makes that stupid emoticon with the sunglasses.

    ...and polls can't be edited! :pc
     
  7. Jim Bowen

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    There'll most likely be a rematch clause in the fight contract for Geale. Hopefully he gets the chance at taking on a domestic challenger first. Out of the main Brit hopefuls I'd like to see the Murray fight most.
     
  8. Robney

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    It completely ruined everything IB... The poll should be void cause you can't take this one seriously anymore 8)
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    :|
     
  11. shadz96

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    i also thin max bursack should get a shout really decent and my opinion better than both lee and rubio.
     
  12. kevinreid001

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    it defo wont be ggg lol think barker would beat macklin murray could be a 50/50 fight did well against sturm and martinez
     
  13. qwertyblahblah

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    Geale definitely deserves a rematch, though it should be in the UK and Barker should command a sizeable purse. If Barker doesn't give Geale an immediate return he should take a fairly easy fight, maybe Sturm, then rematch Geale. Then he should take a big domestic fight with Murray. If he makes it through those three and Martinez is still champ, he would deserve another shot at Martinez, and it would also be smarter to take a Martinez fight over Golovkin.

    From Barker's perspective, high-risk low-reward fights with guys like Jacobs, Korobov, and Pirog don't make sense at all.
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    someone with another title. screw all the sturms and solomans of the world
     
  15. northpaw

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    I'm gonna go with Sturm, Sturm is weak enough now that Barker could
    bring him to the UK finish him off for decent money before going in
    on Murray or a rematch with Geale. If he wants to
    capitalize on the US though maybe an Andy Lee. Don't believe he's
    gonna get a Sergio shot. Sam Soliman is a fight that should be
    avoided at all costs. No point.