Next week!

I'm not impressed with Williams either, in fact, this guy amounts to very little win or lose against Margarito.

It all depends on what Williams can take, because he has no defence other than some basic head movement, which means Margo does get in his sloppy ass arm punches.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised either way, both are ****. It's also fantastic to be able to show that Clottey isn't much of a puncher after all, seeing as he struggled with Guttierez(an almost 3rd rater), couldn't stop a shot Corrales jumping up and then there are a few other examples that I will provide in an up and coming analysation thread about Clottey.

What amazes me is how so many people will be surprised when Clottey gets wiped out by an elite WW, and they will be surprised just because he had success against Margarito before he busted his hands(Margarito being a crappy fighter whom everyone bought into) and that he's shown decent handspeed.

Clottey has 19 KO's out of 31 wins, and he's failed to KO some really glass chinned examples, yet he HURT Margarito with an uppercut...

Margo's chin is overrated.:good

 

Here is a quick fact also -

While Margarito's top wins were ranked, they were not at all impressive fighters to begin with....

Cintron - Shaky jawed joke that isn't going to amount to anything, is overly tenative, weak minded and relies on a crude skillset and power, Manny Steward fixed a few things but he still struggled badly with David Estrada, a light hitting gate keeper and Cintron was rocked on several occassions.

Six heads - A glass jawed fringe contender who was worth nothing but a stepping stone or a tune up.

Clottey - See my post above. Coming off of a back and forth battle with a poor fighter in Guttierez, has failed to stop guys like cans like Carlos Bojorquez KOed in 2 rounds and couldn't put away chinny, shot, moving up 2 divisions Corrales.

Where Clottey gets credit is that he's a decent 2nd tier and a rightful top 10 because he's well rounded, but he does not hit very hard and he cannot handle movement and angles, he's very flat footed.

This is a guy who was OWNING Margarito before his hand broke.

Margarito being considered ANYTHING more than a fringe contender level fighter is a product of hype, boxing fans ignorance and the fact that nobody gave a **** enough to bother with this glorified journeyman when better fights could be made. He will be thrashed by any elite level WW, this includes:

Collazo
Cotto
Mosely
PBF

And he may very well lose to a hype job in Williams, it all depends on Williams' ability to take Margarito's sloppy, inaccurate arm punches.

I personally can't wait either way, because we AT LEAST lose one HYPE JOB.:good

 

Yep, Margarito will find him and he will find Margarito - but from what I see, Margarito is tougher and hits harder.

I think Cotto, Mosley, and Mayweather beat Williams, Margarito, and Clottey. I like Clottey - he's tough, skilled, and strong physically, but he's not a real big puncher as some have said. He punches pretty decent though, but what I've noticed about him is that he tends to fight in spurts and cover up. I don't know how well that would work with Cotto.

 

I have NEVER said Williams was anything, for the past year I have been saying Williams is garbage, this was when he was being considered an opponent for anyone OTHER than Margarito.

Margarito fighting Williams doesn't change my opinion of Williams.

Also, who did Margarito fight in this division that was worth truly noting? I give Cotto medium credit for destroying Quintana, I'd give him even less for Cintron and I'd give him about the same for Quintana if he destroyed Clottey or Baldomir with ease(Quintana, Clottey and Baldo are on the same level). Then I'd give Cotto credit for trashing Margarito, because an elite level does that with ease.

And SEE ABOVE, I gave you a direct list of guys who would thrash Margarito.

 

I don't think Collazo beats Margarito.

 

Exactly what I was thinking

 

A mystery, sure, but we can observe and see the ability in live action and Quintana could very well defeat Cintron, Clottey, Baldomir level guys, so I regard him as a decent 2nd rater.

Then Judah, since Zab's at a low point, I won't go there for now.

What's funny is that all Margarito fans think that paper results and rankings are all that consitutes percieved ability, without truly observing ability itself.

OH, and Hatton is a much better opponent than Margarito on anyone's record, Margarito is bigger, but he's sloppy, unskilled ****.

...........

Who can make someone look worse than I can?:rofl

 

I'd take a fully conditioned Hatton to win a wide UD over Margarito.

 

Nice avatar, very symbolic of Margarito's resume

 

Amsterdam, how can you say that Cotto is elite? He has beaten good fighters in Torres and Quintana - I told you that Chicken dance Zab would not pose a problem. He has beaten good fighters, none of them being elite.

Margo has beaten good fighters none of them being elite. He TKoed sixheads which went the distance with Dzinziruk, whom is likewise a very good fighter. He has KTFO Cintron, like no one else has.

Think of Margo as you will, but calling him a fringe contender hype job is so far off the mark. A fringe contender could not beat so many good fighters.

Saying his chin is suspect or the like makes you a hater, its a strong chin - else he would have been KTFO many times considering how he fights, and how "weak" his defence is. Being stunned happens to anybody.

I am not saying he will beat Cotto or Floyd, but he will definately give them a hard time - way harder than Zab gave both.

 

Margarito is a guy who will make it rough for anybody at 147...he is beatable, but the volume of punches he throws, his size, and heavy hands will make guys work all 12 rounds.