Ngannou beats fury and Wilder but loses to AJ and Usyk

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  1. Renaissance_man

    Renaissance_man Member Full Member

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    Thoughts? I think the above is accurate. Wilder is too one dimensional and fury has lost his sparkle.
     
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  2. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ngannou would lose to Fury almost every time, Fury can box but he KO's Wilder.
     
  3. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not a chance, Ngannou couldn’t beat Fury at his worst, he won’t ever beat him. Usyk boxes circles round him, Wilder stops him, as does AJ. He’s very good for his level of experience but he won’t beat these top guys.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eh, he already beat Fury, no matter the scorecards. Fury was beaten badly by Ngannou, he run out from the backdoor and cancel the presser. Then hide from everyone. Just that Boxing judges in Warren co-promotion score it SD and super close tells you everything.
    Ungiven clear point deduct for a clear as hell intentional elbow, and unclear another KD tells you the whole picture.

    I don't buy the Fury didn't take the fight seriously, this is his problem.

    OP is 100% accurate. Ngannou beats Wilder, but will lose badly to AJ and Usyk.
     
  5. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He beat the **** out of him no doubt but boxing scoring Fury won, once he knew he was in a fight he just jabbed his way to a points win.
     
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  6. Jacdaniel

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    Fury at his worst literally just beat Ngannou 2 months ago…
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Boxing scoring Fury lost. You know that Boxing doesn't score on missing jabs or arm punches that barely touches you, if your opponent busting your face full power?

    Boxing scoring is who control the fight, and that was clearly Ngannou since the 3rd round, Boxing scoring is who is scoring the harder, cleaner punches.
    But don't take my words for it, check the rules:

    Here are the following areas in which boxing judges are encouraged to determine who 'won' or 'lost' a round:

    • Effective Aggression: Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it isn't really 'effective'. Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands punches and avoids those from his opponent.
    • Ring Generalship: The fighter who controls the action and enforces their will and style.
    • Defense: How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
    • Hard and Clean Punches: To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren’t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.
    Now buddy tells me on what exactly area Fury was winning that fight?

    You also again completely want to ignore the 100% intentional elbow and not given KD for Ngannou.
    So NO, Fury lost the fight, even without this 2 factors, that with them, even the corrupt judges paid by Warren wouldn't been able to safe his ***.

    How is that not at least 1 point deduction ?

    How is that not a KD in the 7th round?
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    I watch it from all angle clear KD.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6kXnNFihlpM[/url]
     
  8. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ngannou 100% damaged Fury 5 times more then Fury damaged Ngannou but unfortunately for Ngannou every round is judged as a stand alone and majority of the rounds Fury landed 6 or 7 jabs and won the round.
     
  9. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The elbow would have made it a draw on one of the scorecards which imo would have been a fair result.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And the knockdown would have made it a clear win to Ngannou.
    Even without the 2, i still have Ngannou winning by rounds or two. Don't remember anymore as i score it some time ago.

    That was a clear KD.
     
  11. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There was a 2nd KD? Is that when Fury fell over himself and got called a slip?
     
  12. lordlosh

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    I made a thread with plenty of evidence. There is high quality in there. Yeah clear KD. Fury head snaps when Ngannou landed the right hook counter. He even connect with the left as well after that. Clear as a day KD.
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    When did he do that?
     
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