Ngannou vs Fury: who deserved to win?

that is not a valid argument, naganou could have jumped out of the ring for all we care, fury was down for longer than 10 seconds, that is all there is to it

 

10 count isn't necessarily 10 seconds. Not aware of a rule that says so

 

Oh dear. I am resolutely not a Fury fan, but -

His belt was not up for grabs so, whether he should be stripped or not, this fight is irrelevant as far as that is concerned. For some unknown reason (£$£$£$£) the WBC were on about this fight.

It's a count of 10, not a 10 second count.

He does always seem to get particularly lengthy rest periods though...

Yes, he should be stripped, but that has nothing to do with the Ngannou fight.

Me? I hope he fights Usyk next, loses clearly, and then ****s off forever.

 

I'm sorry, but he is somehow right, not in the term he meant it though, but Fury always get this long, long counts.

I'm not saying it's only him, but a lot of other fighters get a proper count that is close to 10 seconds. Usyk - Dubois for example. Dubois was literally waved at the 10 mark.

And yeah a Boxing count is not a strict 10 seconds count, but the general idea is that. Aka 10 count, that obviously it's close to 10 seconds.
And the problem is some fighters seems to get a lot more time after that for recovery. Aka referee check them way too much if you like.

Typical Boxing though. Some fighters are waved straight away, some are given plenty of time to recover.

For the Elbow part he is 100% correct though. Fury should have seen at least 1 point deduction, hell even 2, as that Elbow landed full force, and it was 100% intentional.

 

The rules obviously state a 10 count, not 10 seconds. But when clowning is added onto the process it adds into the count as well as the opponents ability to get his **** together

 

If Fury was so hurt he couldn't make 10, naganou would have or should have stopped him. It's the same with the Wilder fight. Fury got up and got nailed straight away with a clean LH from Wilder, which did nothing. Fury was clearly fine to fight.

If these guys want to KO Fury, then just do it. Stop moaning about refs not stopping the fight from going on. The idea of the 10 count is that the fighter is so concussed they can't fight on, that's what it's there for. And the reality is that if they are too concussed, they'll be stopped seconds later or the ref will jump in anyway. People trying to pick apart the seconds, the counts, it's desperate.

If you want to stop Fury by KO, concuss him so bad he can't get up or carry on, it's not so hard if he has no chin, right? Eventually the ref will stop it.

So far nobody can do it though. Maybe he's right, maybe he really is that hard to KO. Not everyone can be a glass cannon like Lennox Lewis.

 

Just rewatched the fight, and there was a second KD in the 7th round the referee missed. Fury goes down, and he does down cause he hurt, first Ngannou counter him with straight right, and then landed a Left Hook on the side, both punches landed and Fury was clearly hurt from this 2.

Add the illegal elbow, and this is a very very bad look for the Boxing once again.

Not just that Fury lost, but now with the elbow and the clear second KD that wasn't give to Ngannou, the things are even worst.

A lot of people seems to miss that one.

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Here is the moment.
Look at Fury body and that he is starting to go down the moment Ngannou landed the right hand counter that catch Fury on the front foot and he start going down at the exact same moment.
Fury also had a trouble getting up, and was hurt.
This is a clear KD.

 

I can't find the full video on youtube with a good replay, but i have rewatched the fight, and that was a KD.
The moment you are countered on the front foot and you are going down from that punch, this is 100% a KD.

The robbery is even worsts than we have thought.

 

Not really. Fury was up in 5 seconds, look at the time.

 

It could have gone either way on the cards for me, I wouldn't call it a robbery but I'd say regardless of the scorecards Ngannou is the real winner, his stock is off the charts now.

 

Everyone is taliking like Naganou is the New King of boxing, a top 10 fighter. Is it that hard to imagine that Fury isnt that good? He has been refusing to fight contenders for a reason.

1. Fury after wining against Wilder could have fought everyone and unify. He didnt
2. He could make Joshua fight, he didnt.
3. He tried to make Joyce fight, everyone said Joyce is number 3, they hyped him good. Zhang took care of that.
4. He could unify vs Usky 5 times already, he didnt.
5. He could have done Zhang fight instead frauds Whyte or Chisora, he didnt.
6. He could have forced Usyk hand by defeating Filip Hrgovic for mandatory, prevent him "running", he didnt.
7. He then said nobody wants to fight him, and challenged everyone - from Anderson to Sanchez to Hrgovic, Bakole, Zhang, everyone accepted - he didnt fight any of them.
8. Klitcko fight was ages ago and Klitcko was worn and old (40+), he refused rematch.
9. Wallin was not top 10 when Fury fought him. He almost got beat.
10. Wilder was a champ, OK - but who did Wilder beat - 1 name, Old Luis Ortiz (40+), that is it.
11. He lost against non-boxer - and cheated while doing so - elbowing and tooking 23 sec rest after knockdown.
    

 

I always says he is beyond overrated. He always was, even in his absolutely best.
Bro he was more tired than Klitschko in the 12 round in their fight, and that was Fury at his absolutely best, and Klitschko on his absolutely worst.
Klitschko was 39,7 years old that night, and hell he have a Off night, just like could happen to everyone, and what happen to Fury against Ngannou. And the bloke run out from the rematch like a coward. Not to mention he was on PEDS obviously, was busted and banned.
Can you imagine Fury at 39 years old, against Prime Klitschko ? Muhahhaha hell even Fury at 35 is going to lose to a 39 years old going for retirement Klitschko.

Wilder is a bum, always was, and there is a reason the guy never fought a valuable fighter in his whole career. The moment he steps and he lost .

Not to mention how many bums have taken plenty of rounds against Fury and have hurt and KD him.

On top of that he was never a proper champion, never defended against the top opposition, never carry himself as a True Champion.
He is disgrace to the sports and the news i'm reading of today, he is prolly going to retire, just to duck Oleksandr Usyk once again.
He wasted 1+ year of Usyk career, same with Klitschko and AJ to be fair.

I hope Usyk team finally act as a men and SUE the ****** if he decide to move the date even with 1 day or somehow decide to retire.
Also there is a big problem with the Saudi that this id**** called the press conference off.
As that obviously hurt the Saudis, and he was PAID to do the press.

That is the WBC Champion ....

P.P.
I forget that he lost to McDermott
That is 2 with the Ngannou fight.

On top of that he is one of the dirtiest Boxer, and if he wasn't allow to constantly cheat, and hold, as this is Boxing, and not wrestling, he would have been long retired.

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1. Fury clear
2. Fury - Quite close
3. Francis 10-8
4. Fury clear
5. Fury clear
6. Fury clear
7. Francis
8. Francis clear
9. Fury
10. Fury, fairly close both poor could maybe give to Franswa.

96 - 93 Tyson Fury

Had it closer when watching live.

Can't believe how hard it is to find clean footage of the full fight online also and I was reminded yet again how horrific British commentary is. Find ESPN Bradley commentary if you dare rewatch this boys.

Fury was actually calmer than I recall.

 

I doubt anyone was shocked that you scored it that way for Fury.