Nice KO win for Bute, but he would still lose against Ward, Froch, B-Hops & Kessler

All I want is to see Bute against someone with a pulse. I can understand him wanting to make easy money, but surely he has enough dough now so he can start thinking about his legacy.

Bute looks the real deal. Big guy. Lots of power. Downside is that he is hittable and his chin is slightly suspect.

Wheter Bute wins against the 4 mentioned is by nature difficult to say. A lot would depend on the venue.

 

If Jermain Taylor, who is not exactly a puncher at 168, had Froch down and hurt, why wouldn't Bute stop Froch ?

 

He could beat all 4. Ward would be the toughest fight, but I'd favor him against the other 3.

He's all wrong for Hopkins at this stage. He's got a speed advantage and a much higher ring IQ than what Pascal brought to the table. If that fight happens, I plan on putting a decent bet on Bute since the line should be pretty favorable. Hopkins is better off sticking to guys he can run rings around mentally like Dawson and Pascal.

 

What fight were you watching ?atsch

 

Bute beat Bika and Miranda more convincingly than Ward, Magee more convincingly than Froch, Zuniga more convincingly than Pavlik, and after adjust!ing to his style, Andrade more convincingly than Kessler. Bute actually shines in H2H comparison.

 

Triangular theory FTW.

:deal

 

I don't agree with the comparisons.Froch had a hard night against Mcgee,but he left Mcgee in a crumpled semi conscious heap in the 11th.Bute may have outboxed Mcgee,and won the fight with the acumulative effect of those body shots,but Mcgee was competitive and was snapping Butes head back fairly regularly.
We could also argue that Bika stopped Mendy in less than a round,yet lost to Bute,but Bute took 4 rounds to do the job against Mendy.

 

It's a matter of delivering the goods or not in those fights you mention. If Bute brings his A game in the ring as all others mentioned also do, he definitely beats Hopkins-Froch & Kessler at this stage. For Ward, it's a toss up, only because it would be a very boring cerebral fight !

The thing with Bute is that he often thinks too much in the ring and therefore holds back on what he can do or unleash,

BUT...

He's amongst the rare breed of fighters that lure the opponents into what they want them to do or be where they want them to be....

I can totally understand why you underestimate him Rummy, but you clearly don't size the array of his abilities, which are not only physical or technical....

 

Some very good points in your post,but Bute still hasn't beaten a legitimate world class 168lb'er,so theres still a huge question mark over how he would fare against the top men in the division.
If the rumours about fighting Pavlik are true,then its another backward step for a man that some say is the best SMW.

 

I personally never like to compare based on similar opposition. Calzaghe had a close competitive fight with Bika, while Bute struggled less after the 4th round to easily outbox Bika, but I'm sure that at their best, Calzaghe would beat Bute more often than not.

Magee was a much better fighter against Bute than he was against Froch by the way. Magee said so, his coach and his entire entourage for that matter. They said he was never as ready or prepared like that before.

You normally don't go wrong when you stick to comparing skills, mental psyche and ring intelligence, instead of fights.

Guys don't always fight their best on every occasion, especially when they know the opposition is inferior.

 

Spot on.

 

Yes there's still a big question mark. My main concern with him is mostly how he would deal with real natural speed from guys like Ward and Dirrel. The rest not so much, I'm convinced he'd handle them properly.

 

It may sound like i'm being cynical,and over critical of Butes abilities,but i can see how talented he is,and i've argued the fact when he's been hated on.I just wish he'd up the anti and fight the best so we can see.
If i was to highlight his faults id say........

He gets hit too often and too easily.

He leaves himself wide open when he's throwing combo's.

How will he react if he's not dictating the pace ?

 

I think he generally keeps his chin properly tucked in, even when throwing but you must understand that the right being down is not only his style but also a way to lure fighters inside for the uppercuts or right hooks to counter with. He thinks so much that he actually waits too much for the perfect opportunity to let them go sometimes. That's his biggest downfall right now, especially against defensive wizards like Ward that won't give him repetitive opportunities. He would have to create them.

The reason he can actually land his body shots often comes from the fact that guys feel more comfortable coming inisde on him once they land a few shots upstairs. That's why he's lethal. He lures them in as the rounds go by, and in order for that to happen, he takes a few in the process.

 

Ward and Hopkins school his ass. Froch and Kessler win close but clear decisions or possibly late TKO's. Dirrell would probably beat him outside of Montreal as well.