:thumbsupjowcol, the thing I liked so much about Young was his "anti-badass" attitude...he was a lot like our guy Floyd Patterson in that regard. One of my favorite Jimmy Young moments was right before the Foremen fight...they were both in the ring, and Big George looked so damned imposing compared to Jimmy, and was doing his usual intimidation thing by milling around close to his opponent, and when he neared Young, Jimmy gave him this casual, almost neighborly nod of the head and a slight smile...totally pleasant, like greeting a neighbor on the way to picking up the morning paper....now, I call that cool,...the essence of cool confidence....not sitting on his stool, quaking with fear and freezing up like Ken Norton was doing just prior to his fight with Foreman. Young was not a big, burly, overly muscled badass with a bull****, macho scowl, playing that intimidation game **** like so many fighters have to do. That's one of the reasons I'm a fan of Jimmy Young.
You're right Red. I love the 4th (or 5th) round when George started pushing holding and shoving Jimmy. He pushed George away, looked at the ref and said something like: "p i s s on this bully boy! You can't let him get away with that ****!" Right then we all said: "Jimmy's not intimidated, it's just another fight for him.
Same here cobra, if u watch the dokes fight, after the refs instructions, you see Young shoot that comical smile and kind of tilt his head. A genuine good natured guy. I've heard he was a very funny guy. Watching him through the years I felt like I kind of knew him.
I actually thought he was unlucky he got cut with ****ey too. He was boxing along very smoothly and doing it quite easy until then. Even after that when he couldn't see ****ey never actually hurt him despite teeing off for ages. Would have been very interesting watching that fight enter the second half.
Agreed. And Jimmy hurt him earlier in the bout with that sneaky right hand of his. He recovered well but anyone with snap was going to land their right hands over that defense. That was a thing with those nasty left uppercuts ****ey threw though--they were a punch that could bust you up and how many heavies have that punch in their ****nal?
C00ney destroyed Jimmy Young. Young wasn't unlucky. Young wasn't having an "easy" time of it. C00ney hurt Young with a left uppercut to the nose as early as 40 seconds into the fight and in the third and fourth he pounded Young. And Young was hurt really bad at the close of the fourth. It was a systematic, thorough beatdown. The film doesn't lie. And I don't know what more you wanted to see. There wasn't a "second half" to the fight because Young barely survived through four. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHx4NtJwHqU And they didn't "wheel" Young into the ring, either. :roll:
Young was fine throughout the fight. ****ey did land with power, though most shots were partially slipped or blocked. Young can take a punch, took shavers, foremans, nortons, lyles, he not gonna crumble because he gets hit, like say Norton would. He fought well during the fight.
Young was one if my fav hwts during the 70's. Watched all his televised bouts which would include his fights with Ali, Norton, Foreman and ****ey among many others. Including this read all the minute details leading up these bouts and aftermaths. First Young was a light puncher which is indicated by his lack of any stoppages against live opposition. Secondly I cheered mightily for Young in his bout with Norton and it's a bout he could have won. Norton however was the aggressor throughout and landed the harder blows. Young with marginal additional effort would have won but his lack of initiative to grab the win is testimony to his career. Finally his bout with ****ey was really a one sided beat down. ****ey was in his prime whereas Young was way past his. Just a matter of time.
Exactly. I was a big Jimmy Young fan, too, in the late 70s. I rooted for him every time I saw him fight on TV. There was nothing not to like about him. The people talking about how "easy" the C00ney fight was for Young until he was "unlucky" to get cut ... and that Young was never hurt ... and the fight was "even" when it ended ... Seem to be living in an alternate reality. Young was beaten up and stopped.
The only one living in an alternate reality is you. Boasting up Norton and Lyle as if they were prime and meaningful is absurd. All the while slagging off good fighters like Tate and Coetzee while running ****ey up to the extreme. Absurd.
I stated clearly they weren't "prime." And I said Tate wouldn't "sniff" the Hall of Fame. IS that wrong? How the hell was the Tate fight something to brag about for Weaver. You can watch that fight for 44 minutes of Tate-Weaver... and Weaver arguably never wins a round. He lands one punch in the last 45 seconds ... and that's a WIN you think tops all the dominant performances C00ney had? I can point out Weaver got knocked out by Duane Bobick and Larry Frazier and Bobick's brother ... and you make fun of C00ney for losing to the best version of Holmes? Please. On one thread you're saying Jimmy Young was "wheeled" in ... on another you're bragging about how the C00ney fight was "easy" for Young until he got cut. You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about Dubble,...Cewney never came close to dropping or even hurting Young. He opened the big cut and teed off, but there was Young, right in front of him...he couldn't see, but Cewney could do no more than work on the cut. Jimmy was even firing back!! Watch the damned fight again, not through the eyes of your very obvious agenda!! Jimmy was protecting the eye as much as he could, but again, he couldn't see. If it weren't for the eye, he would have embarrassed ****ey. It was a bloody tko defeat, but not a damned "beat down"...there was no way Young could have continued without being able to see,...but interestingly enough, Cewney couldn't even manage a single knockdown.