Nice win Vitali

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ok,

    That was impressive. Vitali's best win in his career. I don't consider Vitali a great fighter like Wlad, but this past performance was enough to move Vitali up into my top 20 heavyweights of all time list. I was thoroughly impressed with Vitali's handspeed, accuracy, and let jab. I also though he moved his upperbody pretty well. His first big time win against a top 5 prime heavyweight contender.
     
  2. Briscoe

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    I liked how he started to take advantage of leaving larger openings in the 2nd round to keep Ademek charging in. His left jab-straight right was excellent. Another thing I noticed is how he started throwing 2-3 punch combos after the 6th round.

    I'm not a fan of the guy, but he's a dominant heavyweight in a subpar scene. Congrats to his victory, hope he can close his career out after testing the (rather weak) remaining prospects.

    I'm guessing Helenus (#11), Boystov (#6), and maybe Stiverne (#4) pose the most interesting fights. Then there seems to be the "David Haye option".

    At least he's an active champ...
     
  3. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where were Sanders and Peter rated when he beat them?
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Sanders wasn't prime, and peters looked about 15 cheeseburgers too heavy
     
  5. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Based on a win over a LightHeavyweight? :huh
     
  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When would you say he looked better than he had heading into the Vitali fight?

    It was about the same "heaviness" he had had when scoring the wins that put him into the top 5 in the first place.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Against Rahman (well before that but elite wise) and against Wlad he was what? 10lbs lighter but with a big gut.
     
  8. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    V.K. is an awesome force of one and happens to stand tall at # 7 on my ATG list of heavyweight champs, too..... He is the real thing.... Wicked....

    MR.BILL
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you figure he looked "better" in the top video than in the bottom?

    vs. Rahman:
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    vs. Wlad:
    [yt]NqEANlBbhsA[/yt]

    If anything, I'd say he's a bit more fluid and better balanced on his feet in the bottom video than in the top one, plus he keeps his defense tighter.
     
  10. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see a big change in Vitali in any of his comeback fights. If anything, he has slown down a notch.


    Peak for peak, he has more impressive attributes than Wladimir on account of superior ring generalship, composure and chin. Simply put, they're both scoring machines, but Vitali's advantages over his brother make him a less likely upset victim. Just a shame he's been so injury-prone.

    Wlad's advantages (punching power, punching form, handspeed, etc) creates an awesome potential for offense, but because of his vulnerabilities he is averse to risk so it doesn't translate.

    Wlad has a better resume, and a dominant reign, but Vitali was flat-out better peak-for-peak. Shame we never saw him against a Patterson/Tyson type. Well, Sanders, but yeah. Not that comparable.
     
  11. Briscoe

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    After Peters achieved being a paper champ against Maskaev he burnt out quick. You could even argue it was the first Wlad fight that really took a lot out of him.

    Sanders just seems like some tactical anomaly, he never really was that good of a fighter he just matched up really well against the Klitschkos and had some guts. Being an awkward southpaw will unfortunately confuse more than most fighters today.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Sanders trained hard for the Wladimir fight, showed up in great shape. Against Vitali, Sanders didn't train. He played golf instead. Showed up 10lb overweight, and was gassed completely after round 3. Sanders of the Vitali fight was not the same Sanders of the Wlad fight.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Seems more than a stretch.
     
  14. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    You get that pm I sent ya?
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He had to work hard to get your respect there!