Nick Blackwell

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  1. ZODIUS!!!

    ZODIUS!!! The certified boss banned Full Member

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    This kids needs to be kept out of the ring
     
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  2. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well everybody is entitled to their opinion so i don't mind debating as long as its sensible . You have some
    interesting views to put it mildly. Anyway have a good day /night hopefully next time we chat we both share
    the same view . :ciao:
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    ^^ I think it's safe to say that choice has been taken away from him sadly.

    Invasive brain surgery results in long term health implications. The last thing he'll be able to do is box.
     
  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Good day to you too.

    We shall talk again.
     
  5. davidjay

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    Nick Blackwell was a well-known boxer in the country even before the Eubank fight - he was the reigning British champion for a start. That story was one of the biggest in UK boxing last year. You really think a pro boxer isn't going to know who he is, or if that's the case that he's just going to step into the ring and spar with someone he doesn't know the first thing about?
     
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  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    The reigning common wealth champion. Don't make it sound as if he was some well known legendary boxer.. No one besides the very hardcore british boxing enthusiasts and his local friends/family along with those participating in the amateurs who are british born, gives two silver coins about that belt or would have known about Blackwell.

    We've already established that the man in question barely understood a word of English. Do you really think anyone inside that gym is going to take him to one side and dedicate 10 minutes trying to explain and break down the ins and outs of brain injury before he is ready to spar? That is assuming anyone in that gym even knew who Blackwell was or of his previous injury

    Hasan Karkardi was there to simply train and spar, not to babysit another fighter.

    How anyone can even suggest he was responsible for this situation is disgusting.

    Shame on Blackwell for not only throwing away the second chance he was given to live his life through a multitude of different avenues, but to destroy two other careers in the process, is unforgivable.
     
  7. Twentyman

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    He wasn't a household name but anyone who knows a bit about boxing will have heard of him. He was a decent domestic level fighter.

    Responsibility falls on the trainer to protect the fighters in my opinion, that includes both fighters involved.
     
  8. lencoreastside

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    Looks like poor nick isn't the only one with brain damage .....ha ha
     
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  9. Optimus Dime

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    99% HIV cures and age reversing in rats.. obviously there's an underworld of 100% cures.. but officially it's 99% and mice.. like 99% pregnancy and all that.. oxymorons all round..

    So not in the immediate future.. but like Bruno.. who had an eye injury or whatever problem they said he had.. should be allowed to box today..


    I think ultimately they pinned it on bi polar or something.. but physically.. his body is in good shape as far as I know..


    Obviously an eye injury and brain injury are 2 different things.. but obviously English was used from the beginning of the post..
     
  10. Optimus Dime

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    He rushed it too fast.. it takes up to 7 years for the cells to replace each other etc..
     
  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Unable to argue concise points against reason, so the easiest thing to do is to fall back on childish jibes and insult Nick Blackwells condition in the process.

    You wont last here very long with that attitude.
     
  12. Optimus Dime

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    Obviously you might more google hits on the 98% and 97% HIV cures oxymoronically..
     
  13. davidjay

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    No-one's saying he was a legendary boxer. But he was, despite your trying to deny it, the British champion. After the Eubank fight he was one of the best-known boxers in Britain. Yet nobody in that gym knew him? Really? You don't have to take ten minutes to explain brain injury, you take ten seconds to say "That's Nick Blackwell."
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    We don't know completely what happened or whether there were many people in the gym.
    It is entirely possible that the guy who sparred him didn't know him or have much knowledge of the British scene. A lot of boxers just get on with what they are doing, training, sparring whatever, and don't spend time gossiping about recent boxing news or following other fighters, not everyone cares about that crap. If his English wasn't good, that becomes even more likely.

    Anyway, as tragic as it all is, Nick Blackwell was so stupid I'd have to say if he wasn't a boxer he probably would have found some other stupid way to harm himself.
    But what someone mentioned earlier in the thread about the injury to the front brain may have actually made him more impulsive and effected his judgement is interesting, and worrying.
    If that's the case he should have been under some sort of care/supervision at the time anyway.
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    :lol: You really believe Nick Blackwell could walk into any gym and everyone there would automatically know who was by the mere mentioning his name? It sounds as if we are talking about Mike Tyson.

    How about next week you into to your local gym, approach any random eastern european or middle eastern man who is in there boxing, make sure to pick one who can barely speak a word of English and ask them if they know who Nick Blackwell is.

    Current and previous holders of the belt for example are Liam Williams, Jamie Coxx, Obodai Sai, Craig Watson, do any of them ring a bell? Truth be told they are non-entities and you can walk into any gym down the country and scream their names to the roof tops and no one would understand who the hell you are talking about.

    The reality is the commonwealth means nothing outside of british soil. And nickwell blackwell - no disrespect intended - was nothing more than a gloried domestic bum that hardly any casual or gym goer would have heard of unless they followed Chris Eubank jr's career.

    It's probably one of the many reasons why he couldn't let go of boxing in itself and finds himself in the position he is today, because he had a few fans and hangers on telling him he was something more than he was and was capable of much more had his career not been halted by that injury. As a result the ''what if'' thoughts continued to plague his mind.

    The fact he was taking significant shots from some Iranian gym rat, should tell you all you need to know regarding his ability as a pro
     
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