Nick Wells 61 years old today .Interesting article link found from 1972 .

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Wow,what a comparison. I had always thought that Wells had crazy power and noticed that they both had the same idea ofr running out the corner at the bell and trying to take their opponents head off.
    His pro career was a flop, but at the same time (not to make excuses but I will anyway) there were alot of variables that screwed him.

    1. The cut he recieved from the team dorm room door before the 72 trials began, in which so many people say that Bobbick created this cut yet the cut was already there . If the fight would not have been stopped due to this cut , who knows.At the same time this cut was an issue for him from that point on. If the cut never existed then Nick was on his way to beating Bobbick and he may have had a shot to represent the U.S. in 72. He might have had the chance to fight Teo Stevenson. He would've turned some heads on a big stage.

    2. He did turn some heads as Lou Duva wanted to take Nick on but Nick wanted to stay in Texas. Doug Lord would have been a better fit for Nick In Texas. Winky Groom did not help the cause at all.

    3. Nick was a part time pro boxer and could not focus 100% on boxing as he had to find a mean of steady income to support him and his son. Give me an example of someone who was a sucessful pro and did not focus full time om boxing.

    There are a lot more dynamics involved. Oh well , shoulda , coulda ,woulda.
     
  2. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    72 amateur first round KO's for this fellow also.

    http://www.**************/news.php?news_id=2451&y=2013&m=02

    Well that link didn't work so well did it. Courage Tshabalala is the guy I'm talking about.
     
  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Kolcade, as far as i am aware, is Nick Wells Jr.
     
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Harold Brazier worked full time in an auto body shop and trained at night during his prime.
     
  5. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't Bennie Briscoe work full-time as a garbage collector during his pro career? I'm sure I read this somewhere.

    Regardless, it can't be easy to juggle a full-time job and a boxing career.
     
  6. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Wells should've fought Stevenson.Good chance he could've beaten him, and the legend wouldn't have started.
     
  7. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The amazing thing about Wells was, he was like 5'10 187. For some reason, there just was no such thing as an American southpaw heavyweight until the 1980s.
     
  8. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Correct, but while that's an open secret, he doesn't make anything of it on this open forum, and doesn't really need to. Enough posters know about his father or have witnessed him in action. What Kolcade does is set and keep the record straight about certain facts and details which wouldn't be available to the rest of us, filling in blanks like how Winky Groom screwed him up when Dave Gorman was also in Fort Worth (although Kolcade has cited Doug Lord as a preferable alternative to Groom).

    Wells did reportedly tend to cut (a risk which obviously increased as a match continues, and he did probably benefit from avoiding many cuts with the use of headgear that was mandatory in the armed forces competition), and all those short bouts didn't help when it came to developing stamina as a professional, but the one time he won a match which lasted longer than three rounds, it was by a seven round knockout over 3-1 future NABF HW Champion Larry Alexander. Snipes, Page and Ruddock would be three of the only other four guys to ever stop Alexander.

    A southpaw with legendary power, but as to how far he could have gone with a perfect trainer and perfect matchmaking in legitimate competition, I have to be a little reserved, with all due respect to father and son. The father himself might be the best one to speculate on this. Stamina is a concern, but if he somehow could have gotten Holmes in late 1977, things might have been interesting. Larry had long since established himself as a ten round fighter, but Nick would certainly have had a psychological advantage.
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well put.

    Intersting decade of amatuer fighters. Perhaps the best 3 didn't translate to the pro game with Stevenson/Igor/Wells. The guys that did well in the pro's were boxer types in Holmes/Tate and then that 76-78 crop of Page and Dokes and ****ey maybe. And Coetzee and the K man.

    But the southpaws were Igor and Wells. Both had bad skin and cuts/scar tissue back then was a far bigger problem than today. But even Wells was different than Igor in that his Sunday punch was a right hook coming from a southpaw. Rarest of breeds and by far the rarest punch to deal with. Where in the world would a guy get training and sparring for that back then?

    But in boxing, always look at the management. Bad or even mediocre management does not make for great careers. A boxer trying the pro game simply has to have it.