Nikolai Valuev- What would it take for him to be an ATG?

Kamikaze · Jun 16, 2021

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1. Dokes beats Holyfield in 88 and becomes mandatory.
2. Dokes gets injured last minute before fighting Douglas for the title, and Valuev fills in. Valuev wins by tko when Douglas is too winded to come out for the 9th round.
3. Dokes shows up bloated and coked out for his fight with Valuev. Valuev knocks him out.
4. Tubbs gets the nod over Bowe, earning a shot at Valuev.
5. Tubbs shows up totally out of shape for Valuev and a loses a decision.
6. Valuev gets stripped of a title and Lewis wins it.
7. Valuev beats Seldon, Jorge Luis Gonzalez, and Tucker.
8. Lewis gets knocked out by McCall. Valuev beats McCall by decision to reunify.
9. Valuev retires.
10. Moorer picks up a vacant belt by beating Holyfield. Bowe gets a belt by DQ against Golota.
11. Foreman knocks out Moorer.
12. Valuev comes out of retirement to beat post-Golota Bowe and 97 Foreman, taking his belts back.
13. Retires as the GOAT at heavyweight.
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YES

MaxDamage · Jun 16, 2021

Kamikaze said: ↑

Now, if we take how he was where would we need to place him in history for him to be remembered as a great?

I think if our own Suga Valuev had come along during “the Rocky era” with Ezzard, Archie, Walcott and Marciano of course being the apex predators of the division he could potentially clean out the division and hold the belt captive and leave on top after a KO of Patterson.

The best fighter of the Rocky era was well Rocky and he was only 5ft10ish and about 185lbs to the 7ft 328lbs Sugarman.
I think his Iron chin, jab, excellent power and monster strength carry him to ATG status from the lenses of black and white cameras and a shallower era.

This thread is just for fun, don’t shoot me down too harshly. Haha
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Bro this guy lost to a shot to **** Holyfield, Haye only need to threw like 20 punches per round to win despite being much smaller. Valuev is not a particularly hard puncher either, he will lost to Ezzard, Archie, Walcott and Marciano. See Primo Carnera.

Kamikaze · Jun 17, 2021

MaxDamage said: ↑

Bro this guy lost to a shot to **** Holyfield, Haye only need to threw like 20 punches per round to win despite being much smaller. Valuev is not a particularly hard puncher either, he will lost to Ezzard, Archie, Walcott and Marciano. See Primo Carnera.
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Everyone lose to Saint Primo don’t hold that against him.

Fergy · Jun 17, 2021

Kamikaze said: ↑

Now, if we take how he was where would we need to place him in history for him to be remembered as a great?

I think if our own Suga Valuev had come along during “the Rocky era” with Ezzard, Archie, Walcott and Marciano of course being the apex predators of the division he could potentially clean out the division and hold the belt captive and leave on top after a KO of Patterson.

The best fighter of the Rocky era was well Rocky and he was only 5ft10ish and about 185lbs to the 7ft 328lbs Sugarman.
I think his Iron chin, jab, excellent power and monster strength carry him to ATG status from the lenses of black and white cameras and a shallower era.

This thread is just for fun, don’t shoot me down too harshly. Haha
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What about the Corbett of Fitz and Jeffries era.. Surely he could beat a few from back yonder.

Kamikaze · Jun 17, 2021

Fergy said: ↑

What about the Corbett of Fitz and Jeffries era.. Surely he could beat a few from back yonder.
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With ease

From.Russia · Jun 17, 2021

Primo Carnera vs Valuev, ATG fantasy fight

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