Nino Valdes v. Luis Ortiz?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Wlad was 39 years old and lost his next fight .
    Scores of the Jennings fight.

    Valdes beat a shed load of contenders Ortiz hasn't ,end of.
     
  2. mostobviousalt

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    Ortiz' big flaw is flat feet.

    Sort of like Alvarez and Stiverne and Donaire.

    As long as they can counter they are very good to great.

    If their counter oppertunities are taken away by negativity or a stick and mover or somebody else with strong defensive footwork then they're suddenly in much deeper water.

    Stiverne can't lead for ****, Ortiz is better at it but still relies so much on having his feet set.

    Luis is very good still, but his game has a flaw that makes him beatable by men a class below who have the style to exploit that flaw.
     
  3. NoNeck

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    I don't disagree, but Nino had bad footwork. I think Ortiz was quicker on his feet when younger.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Flat feet and a lack of head movement, a Tyson Fury type would make him look ridiculous.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    So Jennings officially won three rounds instead of four and Wlad had a point deduction? That's your point? It was a competitive fight with a clear winner. Maybe you should watch it sometime--if not the Perez fight--instead of lying to yourself that a guy as good as Ortiz would lose 1/3 of his fights against Nino's opposition.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Well he isn't going to get any better that's for sure!