Nipper Pat Daly?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    How good was he? Any footage
     
  2. Melankomas

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    Bump, this dude is super interesting.
     
  3. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Wikipedia has a decent amount of starter info on Daly. It's amazing that this guy had 119 professional bouts and retired at the age of 17.
     
  4. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Daly was about as good as the daily paper from back then. Quick to read and easy to forget.
     
  5. Melankomas

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    Hard to forget a young teen schooling ranked contenders. Even in fights he lost, Daly was usually ahead on points!
     
  6. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Hard to forget? How do I forget someone Iv never heard of? Maybe if Daly had crossed the pond and fought in the states he would be known. He has a good record but who was he beating? Most of who he fought Iv never heard of either. And a 21% KO ratio out of over 100 bouts isent impressive at all.
    To be honest it looks like you were surfing Boxrec and randomly picked this guy out of a hat.
     
  7. Melankomas

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    I was just saying how it's pretty hard to forget about literal kid consistently competing with adults once you read about him, I wasn't talking about you at all.

    Also, what does KO% have to do with a fighter's greatness? Many ATGs have low KO percentages, Maxie Rosenbloom for example.
     
  8. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Ill take your word for it and read up on the kid, seems interesting.
    As far as why is a KO% important is because its the most exciting way to win in boxing. The boxer takes the judges and cards out of the equation and finishes the fight. After all the main objective in boxing is to KO your opponent, everything else falls second. So if a boxer has a high KO% it proves without a doubt he delivers. And that speaks more to someone who is or was a great fighter but more than not left it in the hands of the judges.
     
  9. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Kind of a weird debate considering Daly wasn't a great fighter and also had a low KO%.
     
  10. Freddy Benson.

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    He was known of in the States at the time. There's a fair bit of introductory information about him and his career available online. He was a phenomenally talented young fighter who was beating nationally ranked British opposition as well as European national level fighters as a kid. He was ranked in the top ten in the world at one point. It's obviously hard to play what if but a massively gifted boxer who was ruined by the greed of his manager and perhaps his family too. A pretty tragic story really.
     
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  11. Melankomas

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    Debatable. While not an international fighter, he was certainly a great British fighter. He turned pro at the age of 9, and by 16 he had beaten several British champions and was actually internationally ranked by The Ring in the top 10. He beat European champion Nicholas Petit-Biquet, British champion Dick Corbett, British flyweight champion Bert Kirby and British champion Alf ‘Kid’ Pattenden.

    People in the US were aware of Daly's greatness as well, The Montana Standard commented; “Daly has a born ability to land punches from every conceivable angle, especially at close quarters, and his speed is amazing. Recently he has shown himself possessed of a flashing right hand punch, which has put a number of opponents to sleep, but whether he has the knockout blow of a world’s champion only time can show.”

    He was Mickey Walker's sparring partner at the age of 14! This kid may not have been an ATG, but imagine what he could've achieved had his father\manager not exploited his talent. He retired at 17 because of he was literally washed up from having so many fights
     
  12. Melankomas

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    How is a child expected to knock out adults though? He was at a severe disadvantage in every fight
     
  13. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Fair enough. As I stated before Iv never heard of the kid but I will read up on him. My knowledge of UK boxers from 1930 is minimal to say the least.
     
  14. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Well I was about to read up on him but since you just posted his bio you saved me some time. Thanks