No boxer in history can beat a Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr. (at his weight class) Agree or not?

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  1. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    part of that was his body maturing. holyfield went up from light heavy to heavy, and that is 40 pounds and still dominated. floyd, by your argument went up only 17 ponds, 130-147. and at 147, he came into fights around 153. you really do not think he could not have put on enough muscle to make 160?

    and btw, that is funny! picturing floyd as augustus gloop? well said! and i do mean that! have a great evening!
     
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  2. Dempsey Gibbons

    Dempsey Gibbons Member Full Member

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    You can have a "walk in the park" or a "cake walk".....but you just can't have a walk in the cake. LOL
     
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  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    But you can win in a cake walk...
     
  4. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If your previous 40 fights were without blood test, and that wasn’t the norm back then, from a logical standpoint, the person that introduces a new variable that causes an obstacle is the one causing an obstacle.

    He obviously thought a prime Pac was another animal, else why the special treatment? He coulda just got on with it if he followed his own standard protocol.

    The worst part of that was it was based on his accusation of Pac being on ped without a smoking gun, meanwhile he gets a TUE from the drug testing company he was so chummy with and caught with illegal IVs which could o my be justified if a) he was too big for the weight and had to dehydrate 20lbs b) he was covering up the drugs in his system.

    So pick one.

    Don’t get me wrong, I blame them both, Pac could have just as easily fought a prime Floyd but he essentially ducked that. But floyd also ducked him. They both ducked each other, my rationale for floyd getting more of the blame is that Pac couldn’t have ducked him if floyd didn’t duck him first.

    It’d be like wilder demanding 50/50 from joshua, joshua could take it if he really wants to fight a prime wilder, but it be a good excuse not to and wilder created the avenue for the excuse.
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    We have to decide what weight Mayweather was best in and when his prime was.

    But a few obvious and well known names I think would give Mayweather problems at weights he fought in.

    Ray Robinson
    Ray Leonard
    Hearns
    Duran
    Whitaker

    And you even fighter like Azumah Nelson would have given Mayweather terrors at Super Featherweight.

    Fighters like Mike McCallum fought at Super Welterweight and won world titles, and people just completely overlook these sort of fighters and I don't think they understand the real depth of quality when just skipping over decades and picking out the "names" of the times.

    Mike McCallum beat Julian Jackson at Super Welterweight, yeah Julian Jackson, another fighter that shattered jaws.

    People forget how good Terry Norris was, isn't a HUGE name to the young Mayweather fans of today.

    Same for Meldrick Taylor, in their primes, at their best they were elite level fighters.
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Floyd's greatest asset was his "association" with Bob Bennett, The NSAC & Vegas boxing. THEY were as influential in his success as his talents were
     
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