No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

I’m pretty sure that it’s not a myth. There are reputable studies that confirm this.

 

Exactly. Are we going to spit up an already weak HW division in to two weaker divisions? A SprHW division with....maybe 8 fighters?

 

To me, the definition of a SHW, are guys like Fury and Wilder etc.

Creating another division just for 250 plus guys would be a joke.

Guys like Chagaev, Whyte and Chisora are 250 pounds, yet they're not even big guys.

Just leave things as they are, or maybe look at altering the CW limit.

Again, boxing does not need another division with 4 org's and 6/7 belts.

 

Boxing really needs a merger of 4 org's and 1 World Title Belt

 

Ha!

That made me laugh.

 

Or force HWs to make weight. 240llbs should be plenty for any physique, bar physical freaks and, well tough if you can't get down to that, go be a body builder or something. Might get a division with more athletic fighters that way too, and less blatant PED use, with the onus on making weight like any other division.

Definitely don't need a new weight class, I agree....

 

Wilder could probably fight at cruiser with those pipe cleaner legs. He stepped up vs grandpa Ortiz and almost got his clock cleaned.

 

Maybe Loudon is right. If the Cruiser limit is 210lb, a lot of guys could make it.

 

I agree boxing has too many weight classes, but the HW division is a hot mess. You have tons of 200-220 lb fighters who would otherwise be reigning champions losing on pure size. That to me is not what boxing is. Merge some of the lower weights and figure something out at HW.

Maybe these fat ****s at HW would get in shape if they divided the division.

 

No there aren't and you are scientifically illiterate if you think otherwise. You're just repeating what you've overheard countless times and are assuming that if it were nonsense, somebody would have told you by now. Unfortunately, to many people the repetition of falsehood is more persuasive than the demonstration of truth.

The height increase in first-world nations over the last 100 years is less than present variation between countries. Moreover, there has been no increase at all in the last ~fifty years so that cannot possibly explain the current trend of taller heavyweights -which so far is very short term.

 

Even if this is correct (the no increase in height thing) there is still far more 'SHW' sized men as time progressed and the population exploded.

I am intrigued at the prospect of Usyk and Gassiev campaigning at heavyweight, as although I tend to agree that the division now belongs to the giants, both are elite talents and may yet prove us 'size matters' naysayers wrong!

 

The population hasn't "exploded", and the actual pools of talent may very well have decreased. Any way you slice it, there's no way in hell the short term trend of 6'4" + heavyweights can be any more than very partially explained by changes in the population alone. I don't pretend to know exactly what's going on, but I absolutely guarantee you're going to need another causal mechanism.

 

I don't see how you can call it a short term trend when 6'4"+ HW champs have been dominating for decades. The success of these bigger fighters probably had a bit to do with promoters/trainers investing in this type of prospects.

 

I don't think you understand sample size. Two of those giants grew up in the Soviet Union toward the end of the cold war, so how does that fit with your hypothesis?
Vaiting een line for bread make zem grow beeg?

 

In 2010 according to a blog the avarage weight of Wlads opponents and their opponents (1200+ boxers) was 224lb.
For Tyson 80s-2000s (1000+ boxers) the value is 220lb, which is exactly the same for Lennox Lewis (1000+ boxers).

The HWs might slightly get bigger, but not as fast as from the 50s to the 70s.

Thread starter is talking some garbage. You might be build like a Ibeabuchi (6'2") and therefore be bigger than Wilder and most of the long fellows.