No catchweight or rehydration clause for Canelo-Kovalev

You're actually making the case someone who failed two drugs tests is less implicit in terms of using PEDs than someone who has never failed any? You need help....

 

Povetkin failed a test and plenty of people on this board said it was meaningless and then turn around and accused Wilder of being on peds because of the way he looks

 

No that's what you're saying. I didn't say he was less implicit I said it's less suspicious. With clen in meat testing positive for clen doesn't prove anything. But if Kovalev was accused of skipping a test or refusing to be tested while in training camp that's obviously much more suspicious.

 

You have made a huge admission you suspect Canelo might be doping. Why? Because you have accepted the premise that we have the right to be suspicious of fighters who have missed tests. Well, what about boxers who come off VADA's 365 day testing program just before they start piling on 15llbs of muscle to jump up from middleweight to Light Heavy?

If missing a test is a reason to be suspicious in your book, avoiding them entirely - especially when putting on a significant amount of muscle mass - is a slam dunk.

So Shadow, you suspect Canelo is doping, right? Missing tests, avoiding them. No difference. Your criteria, not mine....

 

Just to be clear, I don't think any failed test is meaningless and I never have pointed the finger at Wilder. But yeah, I've heard people say what you point out...

 

As I mentioned before in a previous post, Canelo and his promoter should not make this demand of a catch weight. You either want the next title up, or you do not. Other champions who fight for the title in the next weight class do not demand this. Why disable another fighter so to enable another, this does not sound dignified or honest for the combatants nor the fight fans. Alvarez wants the Light Heavyweight title, then he needs to put on some weight to meet the requirements, as other greats before him did I know this is boxing today, but is it fair?

 

Wow are you trying hard to misrepresent and reinterpret what I'm saying.

So let me get this straight : You're trying to equate Canelo completing a 365 day testing program to Kovalev refusing to be tested during training camp?

If Kovalev agreed to testing for a specific fight as part of the contract and refused a drug test while he was training for said fight, that's a hell of a lot more suspicious than Canelo completing VADA 365 and not being tested when he's not training. Do you not see a difference between refusing a test while training for a fight and under contract to be tested vs not being in a VADA program in between bouts?

Typically VADA testing is done on a per fight basis. It's part of the fight contract. When the fight is over the VADA testing stops. If you have a problem with fighters not being enrolled in 365 VADA testing continuously than that's pretty much every fighter in the sport.

 

I didn't. In a rush to reply, you didn't think through what you typed and trapped yourself in a corner. We'll never agree, so why prolong things any longer than you need to?

 

You're coming across as desperate to win some kind of argument with me. You're moving the goalposts on this one, as the comparison was originally between Canelo testing positive for clenbuterol vs Kovalev refusing a drug test. You changed that to Canelo completing VADA 365 and not immediately re-enrolling in VADA 365.

Completing VADA 365 and not immediately re-enrolling in another year of VADA 365 is completely different than a fighter refusing a drug test whilst in a contractually obligated VADA program while in training for a fight. One is not in any way suspicious, the other is.

 

Stop projecting, Shadow.

You replied to me in the first instance and I have replied back. Subsequently, I've suggested we leave it be and you've prolonged it. I'm comfortable with you believing whatever you like....

 

Your replies back were attempts to twist and misrepresent what I'm saying, and changing what was being talked about about as a means to distract from Kovalev supposedly refusing a drug test.

Trying to equate Canelo not re-enrolling in VADA 365 after being subjected to random drug testing for a whole year to Kovalev supposedly refusing a drug test during training leading up to a fight is ridiculous.

The difference is when Canelo was under VADA testing he never refused to be tested. Refusing a drug test while under a contract for VADA testing while training for a fight like Kovalev was accused of is way more suspicious, and there's no way you can deny it isn't.

 

Why? Because Canelo knows he doesn't need those to things to win over this old shot version of Kov.

He's most likely juiced and his daddy Bob 'Floyd did nothing wrong by taking IVs' Bennett is running the show in Vegas.
**** Oscar and Canelo.

 

Hi.

 

ROFLMAO YOURE INSANE

 

HERE WE GO, I KNEW IT:

"Saul Canelo Alvarez will have a weight HANDICAP in the form of a rehydration clause for his title challenge against WBO light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev this Saturday night. According to Dan Rafael, both fighters must weigh-in on Saturday morning for a secondary weight check, and neither fighter can go above 185 pounds."

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/11/canelo-vs-kovalev-has-rehydration-clause-in-contract/

CANELO WEIGHT GAMES YET AGAIN.