No chance Frankie Gavin moves to true world class in the pro's

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, May 15, 2009.


  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think being away from the public eye would helo him.

    Also a stepup in class of opposition would help. Having joke fighters doing Usian Bol impersonations isn't any good.

    David Haye fought Tony Booth in his 1st fight, knowing Warren's soft matchmaking it will be 8 fights before any of the guys get in with someone like that.

    Guys need to be tested properly. We aren't asking for DLH type matchmaking, but certainly better than what is being served up to date.
     
  2. johnny2sprouts

    johnny2sprouts Member Full Member

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    I agree that both of his stoppages have been debatable. THe French guy hadn't really been in trouble and didn't look like getting sparked. It was like the ref had been told that he had to stop it. If you were going to stop a fight because one guy wasn't coming back with anything it could've been stopped 30 seconds in.
     
  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    What I've said all along. Even when he won the Worlds. Even after he won his 1st pro fight. And even after this 2nd.
     
  4. Tony Bellew

    Tony Bellew Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frankie beat Alexey Tishenko in the world championships in Chicago!!

    At the time the Russian was unbeaten in 3 years in all competitions and regarded as the best Am on the planet bar none!! Frankie beat him and beat him easily in Chicago!! To win by 9 points against a Russian is a huge victory..It's like an outclassed rule over here..No ONE expected Frankie to beat Tishenko, Only those close to him like myself,Ste Smith and possibly Edwards!!

    I feel if you all give Frankie Gavin time he'll show you why he was Britians ONLY world champion..The kid has everything he really does!! Speed,skill the whole package, He's punching harder everyday and is one of the most dedicated kids I have ever seen, He's boxed great in patches in both his pro fights BUT let's not forget he's had to go searching for his opponents and that's not his strongest point!!

    You'll see the best of him when someone is trying nail him who is dangerous!! He's the hardest thing I've ever seen to hit!! He's unreal on his day and trust me when I say it A FUTURE WORLD CHAMPION...
     
  5. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    frankie aint got great hand speed and his power is very average only great fighters can get to true world class when they possess neither of these in abundance
     
  6. Tony Bellew

    Tony Bellew Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I ain't seen hands as fast in long time..Throws 3's and 4's at the speed fighters throw jabs..Time will tell but remember I said this kid will dominate domestically then go on to world honours!!
     
  7. Kid Lucky

    Kid Lucky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure that looking at his offence in his 2 fights so far is that helpful to assessing.

    we'll only see if he's got it to operate at world class once he's matched against fighters who will come to him and try to overpower him which will suit his style I think. Don't know what his chins like either.
     
  8. DGLASS JAW

    DGLASS JAW Active Member Full Member

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    forget what he done in the ams ..that's shits not boxing its sword fencing ...the lad is not going nowhere .
     
  9. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    he doesn't look like he is having a "fun time" at this early stage of his career?
    he seems a little out of depth defensively and tends to get caught with sucker punches.
    i like his workrate and his persistance though and he also moves well to the side,but moves back in straight lines.quite a dangerous mix i think.
    as for true world class?,perhaps he can make some necessary improvements,he is young with a good heart.or perhaps he will be a decent world fighter who takes a few- to throw a few? (froch?)
    either way it is great to have the olympians on an undercard,they are being marketed well,even most of my footy-loving mates know who these lads are!
    most impressed with billy-jo,he looks a great exciting fighter!
     
  10. debaser

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    Of course there's a chance. You're using his performance in his first two pro bouts as the rational for prediciting the outcome of his entire career, most foolish.

    There are a hundred and one things that he can improve upon but he is in the very early days of learning his trade. Wonder how many people would have predicted Bernard Hopkins would go on to be a HOF candidate after his first two pro bouts.

    Give the lad a chance ffs.
     
  11. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    this guy couldnt make weight for the olympics, that tells you something about dedication. and we all know it was his own fault because we have all seen photos of him out on the **** months and weeks before the olympics. also we keep hearing stories about him getting into allot of trouble outside the ring and liking something that ryhmes with joke a bit to much, im not saying there 100% true but theres never rumours without some substance.

    I also think hes major problem so far has been how easy he is to hit.
     
  12. DGLASS JAW

    DGLASS JAW Active Member Full Member

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    tottally agree.... very hard to hit has a am but I'm surprised how easy he is to hit in the pros.