No established boxer without a history of a ground game will ever do well in mma.

simple, get rid of the ground game. No one has ever payed to watch competitive jujitsu. or collegiate wrestling. on its own, because it's a rather ugly boring spectacle.

There was a MMA promoter on inside MMA who is saying that the wrestlers and jujitsu specialists bore the crowd shitless.

 

rich franklin had zero training before mma. he was a 27 year old school teacher looking for a second career. and yet he became mw champion. yet we are led to believe that a boxer cant learn grappling and become a mma fiighter like evryone else.

Alesio Sakara was a below average boxer in Italy , traveled to brazil to learn bjj around the age of 25. And most recently scored a win on world class bjj artist Thales Lietes.

I noticed the op hasn't replied to any of the arguments presented. Looks like he cant back his **** up.

 

in many eyes it is a different set of rules for boxers coming to mma than wrestlers or bjj standouts.

people just want to act like boxing is just a sport, and a joke as a actual martial art.

It doesnt matter evidence to the contrary, the fact is they are compelled to feel that way to uplift their sport of mma.

it makes me want to distance myself from many mma fans because I simply dont agree, and dont feel the need to dismiss one sport to legitimize another.

It is complete nonsense.

but hey, this is a internet forum, and complete foolishness is often mistaken for wisdom form others who are looking for answers but cannot determine the difference for themselves.

 

What world do you live in?

First off all, yes people do pay to watch BJJ and wrestling.

Second if you take away the ground game from MMA, it is basically thai boxing. MMA brings in much more money world wide than thai boxing.

 

Forrest Griffin started in his early 20's with no combat sports background and he manged to become the LHW champion. There are sooooo many cases of MMA fighters starting late without any background in anything and succeeding, that is a huge chunk of the generation post TUF 1. There are also many strikers with not much ground game history before they started in MMA.

People who wrestled at a young age are always going to do very well in MMA, that applies to anyone who has a high level background in one combat sport coming in to MMA. Its just that wrestling, by itself, applies very well to MMA by controlling the position, more so then striking.

Nevertheless, a boxer can come in and potentially dominate but only when they apply themselves to full time MMA training. Some will fail to adapt to grappling, but others will learn enough to negate high level wrestling (BJJ can be negated much easier then wrestling IMO) to get the knockout with strikes.

Many wrestlers/judo/BJJ competitors, including legit champions from the original sport have taken up MMA. There are very few world class kickboxers and even fewer boxers that have tried MMA, let alone decided to take it seriously and transition successfully. I laugh when people post Royce-Jimmerson, its obvious that Art didn't come to win and he obviously didn't know anything about grappling...i mean he quit without even trying. Very few world class boxers/kickboxers have tried MMA because the money is bigger in boxing and it was bigger in K-1, and since MMA will continue to underpay, continue to expect to only see the same washed up/coming for a paycheck boxers into MMA.

 

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Fighters who train hard and are talented can learn. However guys like Cintron (wrestling) and Williams (Judo) certainly interest me no ends.