No Gold & Glory At The End Of Boxing's Rainbow

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  1. teeto

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    Yeah he told me to watch them! There's one of him training as well.
     
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  2. turpinr

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    i remember him being sat on a table on the stage and his bird was stunning:hey:hey
     
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    Haha, get in Robbie. True scouser!
     
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  4. Stevie G

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    Pat Cowdell. There's a name !! Very good defensive boxer. I remember sitting down to watch his fight with Azumah Nelson. I thought Pat would make a good fight of it,and take Ghana's best the distance. No way did I think Cowdell would get sparked in the first !
     
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  5. AlFrancis

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    Yes, he was a real good fighter. I remember listening to the Sanchez fight on the radio, he took him all the way. I think he was just unlucky with Nelson, he got copped with a huge shot early and that was it. another night he might of done a lot better, not that I think he could of beat him.
     
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  6. Brian Zelley

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    It has been awhile since we returned to this thread about past boxers
    and whatever happened to them some of the ones that would be of interest include middleweight JOEY ARCHER. I wonder how many members saw his two fights with EMILE GRIFFITH in the mid-Sixties.

    Then there was Seattle heavyweight BOONE KIRKMAN. At one time there was talk of a potential KIRKMan vs JERRY QUARRY fight.

    Talking about Seattle - what ever happened to FRASER SCOTT or NEIL KNIGHT and former Seattle & Vancouver boxing coach BOB DECKER.

    Or shift south to Portland and I wonder how my old opponent in the 1968
    Tacoma and Seattle Golden Glove RAY LAMPKIN is doing.

    Of interest former amateur boxer ALAN CURTIS (1960 BC Golden Boy)
    was telling me about his time working out with the likes of DENNY and PHIL MOYER and being a friend of THAD SPENCER and other Oregon boxers.

    Photo: Boone Kirkman
     
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  7. zadfrak

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    That book Fraser Scott wrote was a good one & that was pretty much at the end of his career.

    I think the Norton loss was about it for Kirkman, wasn't it? And that was after a pretty bad loss to Foreman earlier and it's hard for the heavies to bounce back from bad ko's. If memory serves correct, it seemed like there were a lot of good regional type heavies at the time. Kirkman was a northwest guy & Norton was a southern California guy. Wepner was a Jersey guy & Shavers had a lot of bouts around that Ohio area. Lyle fought in Denver a lot.

    The guy that travelled everywhere a lot and stayed busy in all those areas & not just regionally, on small cards was Foreman. It seemed like he was always somewhere and fighting on short notice, But at the time the news in the division was dominated by the 2 big names in the division.
     
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  8. Brian Zelley

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    Those were the days: Fast forward a short time later and FRASER SCOTT was fighting NINO BENVENUTI for the middleweight title

    The 1968 action took place in Seattle at the Northlake Athletic Club and admission was $2 for adults and $1 for kids.

    I had the opportunity to fight a future star in NEIL KNIGHT -
    One of his many achievements was winning the 1969 BC Golden Boy special award. I believe Neil and Seattle teammate GARY FERRARI also won in the 1969 Tacoma Golden Gloves. Gary turned pro, but whatever happened to the classy NEIL KNIGHT?

    Of interest, WILBUR SEALES was a last minute replacement for boxer
    LES BOWLIN. The Canadian boxers were Frankie Scott,
    Nicky McDonald, Freddy Fuller, Brian Zelley and John Gamble.

    However, for the 1968 Seattle Golden Gloves/Pacific Northwest AAU Championships there would be 19 Canadians invading Seattle for a piece of the action. In the 1968 Oregon Golden Gloves at Portland, some of us arrived on a Thursday afternoon by car. To kill time we took in a movie.
    And, I can still remember the movie and the theme song for
    "Valley Of The Dolls", but that's another story that is still fresh 42 years
    later and I can still remember parts of the song about getting of
    "the merry-go-round". For many of us in 1968, life was a merry-go-round
    of club shows and tournaments - I believe between four Golden Gloves tournaments, the Diamond Belt/BC Olympic Trials and a whole bunch of club shows from Seattle to Vancouver and various other towns - from January to May 1968, I had 15 fights including two with the "Portland Panther" RAY LAMPKIN. But, one by one, we left the merry-go-round without being dizzy.
     
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  9. zadfrak

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    Well Kirkman has not stood the test of time all that well but that's a common problem with the heavyweight prospects that don't quite make it. Or, stay there. But the guy was a top rated prospect at one time and a name folks were paying attention to. Man, boxing is such a high wire act and different things can cause a guy to fall off and never come back.
     
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  10. Brian Zelley

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    That's funny :lol: I'm talking about boxing's "merry-go-round" and you bring-up
    the "high wire act" - maybe at times boxing can be like a circus act or a
    seaside carnival be it Blackpool's Pleasure Beach or Cony Island of days gone by.:happy:patsch:hi::bbb - It will take you up and pull you down as you spin along the boxing highway. And, sadly, along the way, :wall some crash land in the process.
     
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