No, James Toney... you're supposed to hate it.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Rattler, Sep 24, 2009.


  1. TKDfighterJoe

    TKDfighterJoe Oneshot Knockout Full Member

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    He forgot to mention the fact that most people in the past watched boxing because they wanted to see people get hurt and KTFO and bleed everywhere. The newer more violent bloodsport came out and some fans are migrating over, no kidding.

    If real-life gladiatorial games were broadcaster on cable they would blow everyone else away with ratings.
     
  2. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So would ****** tennis
     
  3. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest if boxing put as many good fights as MMA does it would be doing great. Fights like Mayweather vs De La Hoya comes about once in 10 years. That **** aint gona cut it for boxing.
     
  4. wentz

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    A completely useless argument. Just as many people would be sickened by it. It would be cancelled outright.

    Most MMA is hardly a sport most of the time anyway. What're zuffa shows, the WWE? Speaking of which, tele theaters like the WWE would be more popular according to your theory. In addition, movies like hostel would rule the boxoffice.

    Contrary to dumb red necks and uneduacted right-wing teabaggers such as yourself, some people actually appreciate watching skilled people compete.

    Turning MMA into a toughman contest on raw is war will kill it (which is why we need to kill zuffa). Making boxing into a dirty bloodsport will kill it as well. Your theory supposes everyone is a red neck simpleton. Everyone who watches glenn beck is. That's all.

    kill zuffa, that's all
     
  5. Stoo

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    Thats a high compliment indeed from the King of useless arguments :good
     
  6. TKDfighterJoe

    TKDfighterJoe Oneshot Knockout Full Member

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    not really. People would be surprised at first. But there are monkeys that can do karate. Without the violence a novelty 'cute ******' show would not surpass gladiatorial games in ratings.

    Has nothing to do with the ratings it would get.

    the WWE is commonly known to be fake. You obviously don't understand my theory.

    I'm not sure how I got categorized as a right-wing glen beck worshipping redneck in the process of all this, or what that has to do with the argument. Of anything I wouldn't be one of those people because I am critisizing the fact that people want nothing more than to see brutality.

    Perhaps you could explain to me why all the most 'exciting' boxing and MMA matches are the most brutal? Gatti vs ward? ali vs fraizer?

    you really think your avarage person has an indepth knowledge and appreciation of technical boxing and MMA skills? no, most people just want to see someone get hurt.

    The reason we don't see anything more brutal (and the reason mma in america is slowly becoming less brutal) is because there are laws and commisons which regulate it.

    now come back even madder than before.
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you ever notice most boxers do like MMA guys like DLH,Roy Jones,Toney,Hopkins all enjoy it. Now idiotic promoters and guys like Floyd who really dont even care about boxing they only care about the profits they make trash MMA because they cant make a buck off it. That article makes a great point if you wanna see a big time fight well be prepared to wait 2 to possibly 10 years for it. Just use Mayweather for example people have wanted him to fight Cotto or Mosley for over 2 years, everyones wanted Abraham vs Pavlik for 2 years and that will never happen, RJJ vs Hopkins has been discussed for about 8 years now and I could go on. Theres only a few big time MMA fights that dont get made and noboddy is really that upset over it like Fedor vs Couture well that would have been huge but Randy stood little chance and Fedor vs Brock well even there Brocks only got 4 wins it could be much better in a year or 2 when Fedors Strikeforce contract is up.
     
  8. sitiyzal

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    "[Boxing's] gone downhill because look at the fighters we got," he said. "Everybody is scared to fight each other. That's the main reason why people are going from boxing to MMA,

    Yeah, especially boxers who talk endless trash about others yet won't fight them. :patsch
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Toney vs. Jackson with amended (Mercer style) MMA stand-up rules - that would be :ibutt
     
  10. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest, Toney is one of few boxers who wouldn't care who they fight as long as the deal is manageable and agreeable.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

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    **** James Toney. Boxing could be bigger if it wasn't for fighters like him. Fat and inconsistent while calling out the best but not being in the picture long enough to really do so.
     
  12. FROST

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    Gotta say I was surprised by this... I guess Toney just likes the old-school attitude about everyone facing everyone within the MMA, that's it. I don't believe he admires these guys skills, c'mon, someone like Toney...
     
  13. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is the correct answer.

    If boxing was like MMA -

    Pryor would have fought SRL.
    Calzaghe would have fought RJJ & BHOP early 2000's.
    Lewis would have fought Bowe, Tyson before Holy got to him.
    Sweet Pea & ODLH would have rematched.
    PBF wouldn't get away with JMM as an opponent etc etc.

    The list goes on and on.

    A lot of fans are getting pissed off with the ducking side of boxing and the 'what if' scenarios, no wonder MMA grows at the rate it does.
    MMA has it too, Lesnar-Fedor for example but nowhere near the degree boxing has.
     
  14. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Very good point. I agree with this.