No mas : on 30 for 30 today

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was punishment to Duran for quitting and taking the shine off what he felt. Should he have done the guy a favor?

    Duran demanded $10 million in the second match because he could. He had the power and he used it. He just didn't use it wisely.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Punishment for quitting??? :barf:nono
    What was Leonards ****ing excuse for doing Hearns the same???

    Duran did'nt demand 10million, it was offered to him.
    Its well documented that they dangled all that money to Duran with the intent to have Leonard fight a less than 100% prepared Duran.
    The prerequisite for Duran to get paid that type of money was that it had to be as soon as possible. Now or forget it.

    Leonard himself has dropped his stock by admitting that the goal was to get Duran into the ring as soon as possible because he knew Duran would be celebrating and not in heavy training to rematch him.
    These are Leonard's words not mine.

    Duran was'nt in elite shape for the Leonard rematch, he dropped alot of weight in the weeks leadup to the fight, I can buy what he's saying that he cramped up during the fight and Leonard clowning while Duran was'nt in peak shape is what made Duran turn his back.


    Who the hell besides Leonard say's, " Psychological warfare, because I could." ????:nut
     
  3. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kinda reminds me of this ass who was begging for rematches after rematches to his arch nemesis but when it was his turn to return the favor, he pulled an "SRL" on him.
    I'll give you a hint: this ass of a boxer is a legend too, but a freaking sore loser and sourgraper. He probably will sourgrape into retirement.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    KTFO6 *******!

    Duran quit because he was in less than stellar shape.

    I guarantee you if Duran had been put to sleep by Leonard, he'd be in no position to demand a rematch.

    PUT TO SLEEP!!!! KTFO6! :bbb:hi: :deal
     
  5. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Finally. Thank you. People often forget that Leonard looked to finish people early in his career and got on his bicycle later in his career after the eye injury.
     
  6. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought you "have no respect for Leonard" since he "made duran wait for 10 years" simply because "he can".
    And the fact that SRL actually humiliated Duran has nothing to do with your "lack of respect to SRL for making Duran wait 10 years for a rematch".
    And also, was Duran even remotely competitive against SRL when he went "No mas" on him? Why is quitting suddenly giving Duran a position to demand a rematch?

    This other boxer who I was talking about though, was getting bloodied and got knocked down himself.

    At least make up something coherent. :hi:

    But sure, whatever floats your boat, Juanita.

    Here's a little something for you:
    http://imgur.com/tOXon6h

    :rofl
     
  7. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's revisionist history to think Leonard had anything to do with Duran not getting an immediate rematch. That second fight left a stink that nobody would touch with a 10 foot pole. Not Don King, not Arum. If an immediate rematch had been set up, then the cries of fix would have grown and grown. This was Hands of Stone. Duran quitting was unthinkable. Leonard gets a lot of flack for how he handled his late career, and rightfully so, but Duran was toxic after the second fight. Duran made his own bed in that situation.
    Leonard seems to get off on the "psychological warfare" thing and thinking he's smarter than everybody. But who the **** would pay to watch a third fight immediately between them? There was NO money in it and only suspicion. THATS why it didn't happen.
     
  8. Vysotskyy

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  9. Gary D

    Gary D New Member Full Member

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    For all who think they know Duran left fight in gym at 165 - 160 he was hurting everyone just not enough time to bring it down at same pace so diet pills whatever ( he was pale and weak by weigh in ( all new problem waiting ) So who's to blame 1 his management for rushing into rematch 2 Roberto for getting so out of whack , but thats what makes him one of us we can relate . the guy already had 70 fights by this time finally got a nice payday went overboard with the food and drink . Any how he def proved him self to be Duran with his career after New orleans. If you look at all his fights the only one who could beat Duran was Duran.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    SRL jerked around Duran, Hearns, and especially Hagler. Takes away from the wins in my opinion and he didn't even beat Hearns in the rematch his judges gave the fight to him :rofl:patsch
     
  11. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your missing/ignoring the point. The first fight was a hard fight, but Leonard wasn't stopped and actually did well in the championship rounds. Of course his trainer is not going to let him fight rough the second go round when they know that he can win boxing. If he didn't stand tall and continued to take a beating, no way he would've took the second fight and there probably would've been little interest.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    Your clarification is much appreciated. :good
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SRL is one of my favourite fighters, but you touched on an important point, which is that one of the things that use to **** me off to no end is that SRL was always the one dictating the terms of each fight he fought because of him winning Olympic gold and him being so marketable during the early stages of his career.

    All the other fighters pretty much had to take what was dictated to them.

    Mayweather/Pac do much the same thing with their catchweight fights. I don't mind fighter fighting a catchweight, but a title shouldn't change hands of the titleholder is handicapped by not being able to fight at the top of the weight limit.
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    basically.
     
  15. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    leonard and dundee pretty much told it straight in one of those legendary nights documentaries. i have to search for the footage.

    they won that fight at the negotiating table.