No matter how WARD looks tonight...FROCH deserves to be #1 168lbs guy RIGHT NOW !!!

Well there is no question Ward and Bute's resume's do not even come close to what Carl has done in the division.

 

My heart says yes, my mind says no. Ward gave a one-sided beating to Kessler who is clearly better than Froch.

I have it now (without Kessler and Taylor)

1. Ward
2. Froch
3. Bute
4. Dirrell
5. Johnson
6. Abraham
7. Bika
8. Stieglitz
9. Sartison
10. Andrade

 

it's between ward and bute

 

You have to beat the man to be the man right? And if I remember well the guy at the top was Kessler who was beaten by Ward. Then u have to beat Ward to become the kingpin of the division.

 

That Ward win was so dirty though, and he should have been dq'd. Now if he had beat Dirrell tonight, which he would have he would be the top.

 

Bute' resume is 0 compared to Froch's.

 

It's Froch, Ward and Bute. Not sure what the order should be here. Kessler's still a wild card, but he has to show he still "has it."

 

Agreed. Ward is very overrated. I think Froch will beat him if they fight.

 

so lets see

froch has wins over pascal, taylor, dirrell, abraham and had a debatable loss to kessler in kesslers back yard. you americans struggle to rank him in your top20 p4p rankings.

ward has a headbutted win over kessler in joakland and americans rate him by concensus top 8 p4p, many top 5 p4p

its not hard to understand why no one takes america seriously when it comes to boxing anymore.

 

carl showed his skill tonight. he has the lot. skill, speed, stregnth, power and most of all heart. the guy should be in the p4p list right now. if martinez is in it surly carls resume stands up???????

 

you thought abraham would beat froch.

 

Son of PEDs is a douche.

 

best division in boxing!!!!! especially when you throw in kessler and degale coming through.