No matter how WARD looks tonight...FROCH deserves to be #1 168lbs guy RIGHT NOW !!!

Well lets see him in England against Carl, or Montreal against Lucian and see how good he really is. If he does it legally there, good for him.

 

Because every single Tour De France bicyclist is American. I also didn't know East Germany was in America. Also, every athlete in the EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga, and La Liga has to clean.

 

Yeh.

 

You know theres no point debating wether Ward is over Froch, too many Ward haters all because Ward shutout Kessler and a few headbutts occurred, if you watch the fight without any bias Ray Charles could see Kessler had no chance, he was getting beat easily before the first accidental headbutt even occured.

This is boxing, protect yourself at all times, like EA sports it's all in the game **** happens and if you keep getting headbutted then obviously you're not doing something right, Evander used his head in pretty much every fight but the good fighters, Lennox, Bowe, Toney and even Moorer were able to negate that and get wins.

At any rate Froch has a good resume but anyone with common sense wouldn't rate him above Ward right now with how Andre dismantled Kessler and how Froch got out hustled in his war with Kessler, Andre is still Undefeated and is also a Champ, without having to win his belt back.

 

Froch has a glass jaw.

 

ward would beat froch. but we shall see

 

I did not say it was an exclusively an American problem only that it was a predominately American issue.

The whole American football, baseball industry is awash with drugs cheats and most of the track and field athletes caught using steroids are Americans.

The biggest suspected drugs cheats in Boxing are mostly but not exclusively American: RJJ, Toney, Mosley, Holyfield, Morrison, Briggs etc plus others and I am inclined to add Ward to that list based on his strange association with Conte.

 

get ward out of joakland and lets see what hes made of :deal

 

Um didn't Froch lose to Kessler who lost to Ward in dominating fashion? One win over a one dimentional fighter doesn't translate to being the man at 168

And until Froch and Ward face each other does it really matter? Some of you guys agendas are so tranparent

 

The importance is given to who beat the division champion in the ring. That's how things work in boxing.

 

Did Kessler land a single punch on Ward? I don't recall any. I'm sure he must have landed a jab or something.

 

Froch is No 1 for me based on his recent resume. I thought he was insane to make his first defence against Taylor in the US but it just goes to show he's got the biggest balls in the division, if not the greatest skill-set.

Ward is yet to be tested on the level Froch has. One home W against Kessler does not trump Pascal, Taylor, Dirrel, Abraham and a close fight with Kessler, regardless of how convincing the win is.

 

It was a one sided asswhooping but the haters chose to fucus on the headbutts. Ward made Kessler look like a club fighter.