No Prime SMW in the last 20 years Beats Prime Roy Jones...Nope

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  1. jermainerambo

    jermainerambo Member Full Member

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    Dariusz Michalczewski and Roy jones were the 2 best at LHW

    Dariusz Michalczewski VS Roy jones could've happen at the end of 2003

    Michalczewsk wanted it....roy jones did not.....

    roy jones signed to fight taver

    Dariusz Michalczewski signed to fight Gonzalez

    They both end up getting beat :deal

    That was the end of that :deadera :thumbsup
     
  2. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    The point is, all the fighters you accused Roy of ducking, never wanted to fight Roy as much as Tarver did...

    If DM crashed his post fight press conference, I am sure he would have signed the fight. Tarver was clearly better than DM at that point, more known in America, was making the most noise in boxing by calling his name and style wise presented serious problems for Roy.

    Roy had balls for dropping weight to fight him, criticizing him for that makes no sense, he clearly was the most dangerous fighter at the time. Coming off of impressive performances.

    Roy won that fight close, end of story... Not many fighters in history have dropped from HW to win the LHW championship in their very next fight.. Just like not many that started at JMW won belts from MW to HW...

    Tarver is the only man that truly wanted to fight Roy Jones to the point of calling him out and chasing him..... And it is because he is the only one that truly thought he could win.. Most of the fighters you mentioned, made comments suggesting that they doubt their ability to beat him.. And never crashed Roy's party....

    I certainly wish Roy would have fought some of those guys... But it is not ALL Roy's fault as you insist. They were reluctant as well, timing and money wasn't right.. I am pretty sure Don King was too much involved in Jones vs. Benn to the point of standing in the way, they both wanted to fight. Benn certainly respected him, at one point saying he didn't mind being second to Roy.
     
  3. jermainerambo

    jermainerambo Member Full Member

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    It's know secret Roy Jones Jr was protected in his prime

    people don't pick Roy Jones:nono........Roy Jones picks you:deal
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Roy could have pushed for more of those fights no doubt..

    But he did not outright duck everyone you accuse him of ducking.. Some of those fights were bad timing, promoters in the way, not the right money, ect... The same can be said about EVERY fighter. There are always good fights that didn't happen for some reason.

    Fact is, for all those he didn't fight, he beat 2 ATG fighters, the bigger names of the generation, convincingly. Won belts in 4 weight classes, beat a HW belt holder, held the mythical P4P championship for a while, when he wasn't #1 by ring he was usually #2 in that 10 year time period.

    He is a world wide household name, the ones you listed him ducking are not.. He is respected by all of his rivals... It has to count for something.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Please, if Roy ever fought Dariusz he'd have clowned him like he did everyone else. Roy beat better fighters than Dariusz. Fact. Dariusz did not beat better fighters than Roy. Fact. Roy is a first ballot HOF'er, fact. Dariusz is not. Fact. :deal
     
  6. jermainerambo

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    Dariusz Michalczewski is in the light heavyweight history books

    Joe calzaghe is in the super middleweight history books

    Bernard hopkins is in the middleweight books

    They all can be regarded as the best in history in their divisions

    Roy Jones Jr ain't got a division to claim:deal


    Because he never fought the elite fighters at any weight division he boxed in


    Don't tell me about know p4p....That **** was made up by HBO

    How come all the so called p4p fighters are all on HBO?.......:think.
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    P4P was not made up by HBO, fact.


    Please tell me you didn't just call Michaelz the best light heavyweight in history..... (think long and hard about that, and then get back to me)

    Regards.
     
  8. jermainerambo

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    Dariusz michalczewsk is in the history books


    Who is the longest reigning light heavyweight champion in history?.....:think

    who has the most consecutive successful title defenses at light heavyweight?.......:think

    Think long and hard before you open your mouth Again :deal
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    You aren't the #1 light heavyweight ever when you only ever fight at home and never fight the #1 guy at your weight, or the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

    Charles
    Moore
    Spinks
    Jones
    Conn
    Tunney

    Are all greater and better fighters than Dariusz. Deal with it. Start a poll if you like :deal
     
  10. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Too early to tell. I wouldn't put him over Toney yet either. Those beasts from the 90's would laugh at the Super 6. Ward would have his hands full with Eubank, Graham, Benn, and I don't think he'd beat Toney, McCallum, and much less Rj. Calzaghe would be an even fight IMO. Ward wouldn't gas like Bhops and he'd be the cleaner puncher. Joe would just punch away, but I'd give the edge to Ward.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. jermainerambo

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    They can't match Dariusz Michalczewski's light heavyweight Achievements:lol::lol:
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Sorry. Jones has a Glass Jaw. Not going to pick him in many Head to Head fights with other ATG's. It would be a huge factor. Keep in mind Jones NEVER even fought a legit Savage puncher either. His Chin would get shattered against other ATG's in brutal and embarrassing fashion.
     
  14. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    His chin didn't get shattered until he moved down in weight.
    His neck lost a lot of muscles (it's gotten thinner) making you more prone to KOs.

    It probably never was iron, but moving down again probably did hurt him a lot. (Actually it smashed him to the ground)
     
  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fine post mind reader:good glad to see you're still posting by the way :bbb