No undisputed shot for Parker

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously when Zelensky was having his big argument with Trump in the White House he had brought a WBC belt with the Ukrainian colors on it laying next to him. I am 100% serious. Go watch the video.
     
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  2. Rick’s Piano

    Rick’s Piano New Member Full Member

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    a real shame for the level of fighter usyk is. taking unnecessary rematches for easier paydays will be a blemish on his legacy. Drop the belts if you don't want to defend them then I could respect it more.
     
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  3. LoveThis

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    Always with the ukrainian government... Find some proofs for any kind of foul play or leave it be. Speculating doesn't help anyone here. Sounds as stupid as salty fury after losing to Usyk... Usyk has stated numerous times he wants to give the ukrainian people/soldiers hope and international attention and that is sufficient as a reason for him to promote the Ukraine to me.

    He was waving the ukrainian flag a lot even before the war. Which I always found strange but then again the americans and (to a lesser extent) the brits are celebrating their flags a lot, too (and have weird anthem singers in the case of the us). So it's hard to pick him out for being a patriot when so many are. If usyk was a brit fighting in support of his country not many would rise an eyebrow I estimate.

    And I don't believe he got or won any fights just because of the war. No facts there

    Taking the Dubois fight is as justifyable as taking the parker fight or Kabayel. He can't do all at once. He could have retired, too. It would be a mandatory either way. I am just happy we see him fight another proper fight even though I would prefer Kabayel.
     
  4. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Yes of course . The zelensky political speech during dubois1 , bringing the wbc belt to trump . I think we never saw such a political connection to a boxer before , of course team usyk is massivly goverment connected and funded.

    He so can take low pay fights ( a fight against parker at riyadh season would generate a LOT more money than dubois at wembley ) but nobody cares since money flows regardless and is for ukraine currently indefinitely available.

    His only job is not to loose so zelensky can present his undisputed and undefeated hero. Thats why he avoids any opponent which could be dangerous - e.g kabayel .
     
  5. FrankinDallas

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    I don't read minds so I've no idea what Usyk is thinking. My opinion is that he's been taking punishment from much bigger guys in the HW division and at 37/38 there's only so much a body can take. And he's been on thin ice lately....you can see a decline in his last Fury bout.

    If he gets past the much bigger and motivated DDD....that's IF....I'd advise him to take one more fight then drop the belts and retire.

    And don't bring up Jake Paul who isn't stupid enough to get in the ring with Usyk.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this is all true but according to the man himself he's got two fights left. By his own admission its almost all done.

    I think he's hyper-focused on his own personal goals, of re-unifying and then having his big money-making swan song. It is a shame, because I think Usyk-Parker is a fight that ought to be.I fall a little short of calling it a "duck," but it is a shame for the fans, for Parker, and for Usyk himself who is going to leave the sport pissing some people off when he could have walked out without any ill will.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Decline in the last Fury fight? I had him winning even more cleanly. It almost looked to me like back to the cruiserweight old days where the only rounds Fury won were the ones Usyk let him have. Almost every round, he would keep it close, turn it up at the right moment and steal the round with impressive flurries that Fury had no answer for.

    As for Dubois, don't worry about it one bit. Usyk will use BOTH hands this time.
     
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  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Usyk should be fighting Joseph Parker next, instead of the undeserving dirty fighter Dubois.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would give him a little leeway, as his goals are different from ours. He want's the triple undisputed, and he wants to avenge his honor at all things Dubois and his droogs are saying.

    But Parker should get his shot NEXT. I admit it doesn't sit with me right that he is being passed up entirely.
     
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  10. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Guaranteed Parker will get his shot.

    Any dip**** should understand this.

    How malleable would Parker be should he win, would he be cannon fodder? Should he be and what’s his worth?

    The sport of boxing is world renowned, especially Heavyweight Boxing. It’s no coincidence that the unified heavy champion is a Ukrainian, just so happens to be.

    Frank Warren didn’t break the ice with Nelson Mandela because he’s a chump and boxing is a joke.

    It’s a serious game. A game of Kings. The best physicality that the human ape has to offer.
     
  11. mrbigshot

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    Of course only on an agreed and scripted fight since jake does not want to present his fans how he kisses the canvas in first 30 seconds . Usyk is without any doubts leagues away from jake paul but its a win win for both .
    Jake paul can present fighting the champion and usyk has a fight he easily controls with zero risk of loosing . Of course from a sporting view as meaningless as the dubois fight
     
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  12. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh god.

    Look — we can we just keep politics to the lounge? This really has no place in this specific forum.
     
  13. rolzone

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    He better bring his own ref lol
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ain't going to need to. This time, he'll use BOTH hands.
     
  15. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Parker can shine after Usyk retires