No Version of Wladimer Klitschko Could Beat "That Past Best" Lewis, Vitali Fought

atsch LL wouldn"t have gotten out of round 2 if he had fought VLAD .

 

Yes, because VLAD is such a notoriously fast starter. :think

 

If you take any version of Lennox against CURRENT Wladimir, you really have to give the edge to Wladimir.

It isn't an easy nights work for either fighter, and someone would be stupid to think it is. The reason CURRENT Wladimir has the edge breaks down into several main reasons:

1) Better conditioning, and more alertness during fights. Lennox didn't take his training nearly as serious as Wlad does, and CONSISTENTLY got lazy in fights, something you can't do against Wlad.

2) Between the two, Lennox is far easier to hit. His defense is levels below Wlad's, and though his boxing skills are great, he is not as technically brilliant is W.K.

3) Wladimir has superior ring generalship. Current Wlad and everyone who fights him fights one way only: his way. Wlad has become VERY good at controlling the pace of the fight to best suit him. He is better at dictating the direction the fight goes in, and that being said, I believe he has a superior ring IQ to Lennox.

Lennox's strengths are that he is a superheavy with power and very good skills who can go to war. I feel his best chance against Wlad is to make it a nasty rough fight, something Wlad will feel less comfortable in.

This fight really comes down to who can control the pace better. If Lennox can turn it into a high volume brawl, he has the edge. If Wlad can keep it a boxing match, I think his superior footspeed, handspeed, slight edge in power, and much better defense gives him the edge.

All things said, I think Wladimir has shown throughout his career that he is the better of the two when it comes to controlling the pace of a fight, and that is why I see him as a slight favorite in this match up.

 

1. Okay, but this is not going the distance. And Lennox fought at a higher pace, so it's hard to judge conditioning.

2. He fought better comp, so he got hit more. Opened up more too. He is WAY more technically brilliant than Wlad. (Wlad is not technically brillinat at all. He has a few tools which he does really well)

3. Your last point is flat out wrong. Wlad has a low ring IQ, and Lewis has a high one. Wlad does not adjust mid fight. Even Steward says this. Lewis could. Wlad's all purpose back up plan of clinching is what he uses to slow fight down. Against Lewis, he'd get murdered in a clinch.


Anything Wlad does, Lewis did better (except the left hook) plus, Lewis did a whole lot more, like punching and moving, using angles, switching up his attack, etc.

 

Toe-to-toe, it's close between prime Wlad vs. prime Lewis.

2010 Wlad vs. 2000 Lewis = Very close match, I pick Lewis.

2010 Wlad vs. 2003 Lewis = Wlad TKO5

Vitali had bad luck and was cut. He was also getting tired. Wladimir doesn't tire because of his style, he knows how to administrate his resistance.

 

Just like Haye vs. Wlad wouldn't go the distance? Lewis has fought to decision a LOT. Wlad not so much, but still this one is not guaranteed to end by stoppage. Not even close. Wladimir at this point in his career is absolutely better conditioned.

Lewis got hit more because his defense wasn't as sound, and he took a lot more risk, not because of his competition. He was getting beaten up by ****ing MAVROVICH for a couple rounds.

You say Wladimir isn't technically brilliant at all? Are you ******ed? He has arguably the best/strongest/most versatile jab of all time, a textbook perfect right hand, and a rocket left hook. Wlad throws the 1-2 better than Lewis. He is clearly the better technician. He doesn't throw body shots often, but he really doesn't need to take that risk when he's usually the taller man.

Honestly you sound like a hater so I wont continue replying.

 

:good

Wlad 2010 vs. Wlad 2000, very close in may opinion 50:50.

 

Much of this is wrong. Ring Generalship in this fight would definately go to Lewis because he would make it an inside fight. What's Wald going to do about it? The only Wlad really could do would be to catch Lewis coming in, which could happen but I don't think it would. It wouldn't surprise me if Wlad was actually fighting backing up during parts of the fight.

Conditioning, possible edge to Wlad but Lewis could hold his own, in fact I believe against Purrity it was Wlad who couldn't continue due to exhaustion, same with Brewster. (ahtough there are so many excusses related to this loss I don't know which to believe).

I don't recally Lewis ever loosing a fight due to exhaustion unless you want to label the loss to Rahman in that category. I doubt it would be the slow paced fight Wlad likes to fight.

So I agree with most of what you said, but I really have NEVER seen Lewis in a fight where he just passively gets outboxed and looses a decision. That's not going to happen. If Lewis thinks he needs to wage a war to win than that's what he'll do. It worked well against Golota, Ruddock, and Grant and it worked well when Sanders did it, so this would very likely be the strategy employed.

As for your technique argument, Wlad probably is technically better in my areas, but he lacks probably the most important component, he's not a fighter, he's a boxer, and he doesn't have a fighters mentality. Add that to having virtually no inside fighting skills and it would be hard to see how Wlad could beat Lewis outside of catching him with something big as Lewis tries getting into the inside. It could happen, but I'd be putting my $$ on Lewis in this fight.

 

Lennox does not get into boxing matches against tall boxers he mauls them to death.

Golota, Briggs, Vitali, Bowe, Grant, Akinwande, and even Tony Tucker were drawn into a Lennox Brawl. Wlad would be the EASIEST of these men because Wlad has no inside game apart from the grab/lean tactic.

 

If Lennox got careless with Wlad... he would no doubt, eventually get caught with a huge shot. Wlad hits harder and has faster hands than all the above guys mentioned. Something tells me Lewis would be a tad more cautious with Wladimir. And if he wasn't... he's even dumber than I thought.

Bottom line is that Wladimir would be a huge threat to Lennox. If guys like McCall and Rahman can crack Lewis the **** out... then Wladimir sure as hell has a great chance.

 

Pointing out that Wlad went the distance with a chinny cruiser weight is not helping your argument. When Lewis went to decisions, it's not because he was afraid to unleash punches.

 

:smoke Back then he was . No the topic before you make the quote .

 

atsch Then it was his lack of power or inability to land it ?

 

You missing a huge component.

MCall has one of the best chins of ALL TIME.

Wlad has one of the worst chins in heavyweight championship history.

A huge factor there.

Keith

 

atsch