No Way Would Pac Beat Calzaghe If They Were the Same Size!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by southpaw1974, Dec 4, 2008.


  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    you are completey wrong on what p4p means and need to look at the actuall meaning of p4p:good
     
  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Yawn. Wrong. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. :hi:
     
  3. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    If that's the case then why isn't Ivan Calderon #1 P4P??
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    Please tell me how you see a Ricardo Lopez v Lennox Lewis fight going.


    - 17st and 6'4" version of Lopez vs the real Lennox Lewis

    and

    - 7st and 5'2" version of Lewis vs the real Ricardo Lopez


    Would both of these "p4p" fights have the same result????



    THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!?!?!!?!?! :patsch
     
  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :verysad:verysad

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    Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighters of all time, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top
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    . Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best without being expected to beat much larger fighters, under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.

    heres the link

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_for_pound

    :deal

    now go off and die!!!:D
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    it seems as though peopl have lost what the term p4p actually means.
     
  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Theres a simple answer here..although I love Joe and p4p he probably matches PACs handspeed. I can see PAC dominating Joe...Joes style plays into PAcs hands believe it or not..sloppy, atrocious technique..these are the types PAC dominates.

    Part of the reason a thinking boxer like BHOp had hard time with Joe is because of Joes sloppy style and awkwardness along with his speed. Well Joe wouldnt have that speed advantage against PAC..

    I can see Joe eating alot of straight lefts
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    a 16 years old and an 19 years old pac had been KOed. The second one in a championship fight and severely dehydrated. But this is not in the equation anyway.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Without literally pitting them together in the same ring, the main difference is Calzaghe is a much smarter fighter, with superior inside skills.

    I see him as a more rounded fighter than Pacquiao, he probably only really has power over Calzaghe.
     
  10. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree calzaghe is p4p the greatest current boxer.
    i think he is better than pbf too.
    study the both fighters with a non-bias view and you should agree.
    (watch there five best performances.)
    i am not a fan of his slap style punch although it is fast and pretty affective.
    but his ring intelligence,ability to change,and movement are fantastic.

     
  11. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    The only thing worse than a ****ing idiot is a ****ing idiot with a horrible attitude.

    You have misunderstood and misinterpreted the definition of p4p entirely, so again I will try to help you:


    Pound-for-pound is the term used in
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    Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighters of all time, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top
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    . Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best without being expected to beat much larger fighters, under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.

    To put it in my own words as simply as possible:

    Pound-for-pound is for deciding who is BETTER between two boxers, not who would WIN.

    H2H is for deciding who would WIN between two boxers.

    Pound-for-pound can be used to decide between ANY two fighters at any weights, because you are rating them on how good they were at their own weight and their overall greatness, it has nothing to do with H2H unless the two fighters in question fought at the same weight.


    Do you understand yet, you silly arrogant little sausage?
     
  12. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Pac and Joe were the same size - Pacman would win easily. NO slapper could ever beat Manny.
     
  13. out of interest where is your source for the definition of the term?
     
  14. pugilist64

    pugilist64 Guest

    Is it not in the equation because it is inconvenient?
     
  15. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    OMG Pac would brutally brutalize calzaghe brutally on the way to a brutal stoppage if he was the same size!!