Nobody at 160 can beat Billy Joe Saunders.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :lol: Yeah... okay. Jermall's still got some unfinished business with Trout, who he did not beat cleanly, yes that was a gift. Now if a slippery southpaw like Trout can give Jermallo that much trouble, how much trouble do you think a far slicker, heavier handed, bigger and faster Trout with a solid chin can do to him?

    As far as Jermell goes, let's see him beat Eubank Jr. O'Sullivan, Andy Lee or Lemieux caliber before you start singing his praises. Oooooooh he KO'd Lubin, an untested prospect who'd never fought anyone decent in his life, or that worthless bum Hatley. Is that supposed to impress me? CHarlo is still the same guy that struggled with Vanes and John Jackson, nothing has changed, Saunders boxes his ears in and off. They're the two biggest hypejobs in the sport.

    As far as Jacobs goes, he's a stylistic nightmare for Saunders, but... Saunders is a stylistic nightmare for Danny as well.
     
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  2. CST80

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    Well Danny fought him off the backfoot and lasted the distance, and almost beat him. I think you're underrating Saunders a little too much, skill wise, he can easily hang with Jacobs and Canelo, IMO, he's the more skilled than both of them, not saying GGG definitely loses, but the fight should correctly be seen as a toss up at this point.
     
  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, Jermall barely eeked by Trout, and Jermell hasn't faced anyone near BJS level. I'll concede this to you, you seem pretty good picking the outcome of fights and I had Andy Lee And Dmitry Pirog penciled in as ATG's when I first saw them. I still think the Charlo bro's will be pretty exceptional for a pretty long time when all is said and done, maybe not be able to beat BJS and one or two of the other most elite MW's.

    Agree on Jacobs and BJS.
     
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  4. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    At the same time, I think his win over Lemieux is also being overrated. This is Lemiux, he's shown he can be easily outboxed. The fact that Curtis Stevens was outboxing him and Max Kellerman called him out on that in the post fight interview shows anyone capable of movement and a jab could make Lemieux look foolish, and that he only looks good against come forward type fighters (except GGG of course).

    I'd say Jacobs would have beaten Lemiuex just as easily as Saunders, maybe even stopped him.

    As far as GGG vs BJS, I hope we see it sometime in 2018 to end all the speculation. Funny how just prior to this fight almost everyone gave him no chance against Chris Eubank Jr in a rematch, yet now he's the next Mohammed Ali just because he beat Lemieux?
     
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  5. CST80

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    Stevens had a decent but competitive second round, but the fight was being fairly easily won by Lemieux, he hurt Stevens visibly in the first, the second was back and forth, the 3rd it was over. And I literally watched it against last night, HBO put it back up on OnDemand. Yeah, he's not the hardest guy to outbox, and I picked Saunders top beat him with relative ease, but let's be honest here, no one aside from GGG has handled Lemieux as easily as Saunders did.

    I've always been high on Saunders, I picked him to beat Eubank on here the first time, picked him to beat Lee on here, and I for one have said every time its brought up that Saunders beats CEJ in the rematch too, I don't care what all the delusional Eubank fanboys are saying, he only appears to have improved because he's fighting guys who are tailor made or him. This version of Saunders beats him easier than he did the first time.

    Saunders main issues have always been his stamina mixed with fighting to the level of his opponents, now that he's with Ingle and the stamina is no longer an issue, he is going to be an absolute nightmare for anyone to have to deal with. He was handling both Lee and Eubank with ease up until he gassed, well, now that he isn't gassing, the sky's the limit IMO.
     
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  6. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    I agree on CEJ. Though, IF he beats George Groves (which I don't think he will), then the fanbase here will just shift back to CEJ, and once again BJS will be the underdog in a rematch.

    I don't even want to see a rematch, I don't think it will answer any questions regardless of who wins. Thankfully, CEJ has his hands full with the tournament so we're going to find out real quick if he's truly world class or not (don't think he will make it out of there with this record unblemished). BJS now needs to pursue the big fights. If he's waiting on the winner of GGG-Canelo, then good. If not, try to make the fight with Jacobs.
     
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  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was a top 5 guy in the division before the David fight,
    He's a top 5 guy after the David fight. Literally nothing changed
    and I don't know he's being overrated when it was clear from
    the beginning David would be outboxed.

    He'll struggle with Golovkin and Canelo as well as Danny and
    Jermall. Golovkin is a monster that cuts the ring off, Canelo
    is a dynamic counter puncher with great upper body movement,
    and Danny and Jermall are both just as athletically gifted (if not more)
    and both have far more offensive firepower. Saunders is solid but
    please stop overrating him
     
  8. Daddy

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    BJS is legit. No Bullspit. Honestly I think he beats everyone except Jacobs and GGG. Canelo has questionable wins over trout and lara, two stick and move styles. BJS is better than both. Jacobs is good and will throw during BJS's exchanges hoping to capitalize. GGG has a phenom jab and cuts off the ring better than most. 50-50 on those two.
     
  9. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BJS has shown himself to be a very talented and capable fighter.
    Beating all styles of fighters in his under defeated career so far.
    Could we be seeing another Joe Calzaghe ? Only time will tell but
    BJS is already on the right path.
     
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