Nobody is ever impressed by Bute. I am not impressed by Ward either.

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  1. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Andre Ward is a slow fighter. He bet Kessler when Kessler wasn't in his best. Arthor Abraham is just a gate keeper at Super Middleweight. Ward has never showed me a win that I said WOW!!! In Bute's fights with Edison Miranda, Jean Paul Mendy, Libardo Andrade 2, Fulgencio Zuniga, and Brian Magee and a couple more, he preformed impressive KOs and gave them the worst and most brutal loss in there whole career. Andre Ward and Carl Froch are good. I still feel Froch and Bute put on better and more impressive KOs over Top 10-15 P4P then Andre Ward.


    My Point being is he always puts on good fights. And gave an offer to fight Kessler and Kessler denied for some reason, and is trying to get a fight with Kelly Pavlik. He needs everyone to give him a chance and let him proof he is the best Super Middleweight. And Andre Ward, Carl Froch and everone else must try also. :bbb
     
  2. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Level of competition

    You mention Abraham and Kessler.

    Compare them to the best Bute has fought , Mendy ?

    I also dont go for this Bute bull**** talking about Kessler ducking him , Kessler fought Calzaghe in Cardiff and Ward in Oakland , but with the right terms.

    I heard the contract was so onesided it made Don King laugh.
     
  3. gooners!!

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    Personally, I didn't enjoy his fights with Magee or Brinkley. Bute is far too tentative for my liking.
     
  4. Toby 1991

    Toby 1991 Member Full Member

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    I'm a fan of Lucian Bute and Andre Dirrell, but I'm not really a fan of Andre Ward.
     
  5. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How anyone can be a fan of dirrell is a worry.
     
  6. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    There are plenty of Bute fans and plenty of Ward fans, not everyone is gonna like both, you don't have to down-play Ward in order to make a fighter you like look good...

    They are both skilled undefeated fighters and the both of them get critisized by many, Wards has fought the better comp thus far and Bute has the more immpressive ko's, but you can't base knockouts on who is best, B-Hop rarely gets a ko but continues to win decisively as does Mayweather.
     
  7. gooners!!

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    I dont know why, but with Bute, I have always got the impression he's doing his reputation wonders by fighting theses good, but second tier level fighters. Dont get me wrong, Andrade & Miranda are respectable, good to decent fighters, but I've always felt, once he steps up, with a fighter near his own level, he will lose, that he's been made to look better than he is, because of whom he's been fighting.

    I think Bute's bubble will burst when steps up his comp.
     
  8. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree ,

    He carries his hands way too low , and can get away with it against the guy in the blue corner of the Contender , but against the real top quality , Kessler , Froch , Ward he would be eating right hands all night .

    Lets also remember Andrade had him on ***** street and he isnt a puncher.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    There is nothing to suggest that Abraham was any better at 168 than Andrade.
     
  10. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    i think your opinion is heavily influenced by the fighter's style....
    one is a puncher, the other one is a control boxer
    both are able to dominate their opponents in their own respective way

    Ward has faced much higher caliber opponents due to the Super 6
    Its much easier to look spectacular vs a laundry list of B caliber opponents

    Both fighters impress me in their own ways.....
     
  11. gooners!!

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    I'd worry more about stamina personally, cause he seemed to get REALLY tired in that fight, which was more significant imo.
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I dont dislike Bute, but its obvious he has a padded record and a tko loss to Andrade. He is an offensive force, but the feeding of has beens or never weres has to stop. Kessler is a big star himself proven warrior he doesnt have to agree with all of Butes demands. Ward maybe hasnt impressed as much as Bute becauase Ward is fighting the best in the world, not punching bags like Bute.
     
  13. slim

    slim Active Member Full Member

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    Bute is a good fighter just want to see him step it up.
     
  14. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    saw it live..here's the thing...
    bute was punishing and outboxing andrade for 11 rounds, figured he'd go for the KO so unloaded on his head, went all balls out, and learned the big lesson that he did that night. i cannot believe he tried to do that, after having watched kessler andrade though. andrade's chin was easily the best i had seen up to that point, even now i'd put him over margarito after seeing what mosely did. annnyway...

    bute has to step up his challengers, and now will i believe. hope. if not it's pretty bad.
     
  15. HIGHCOLLIDE

    HIGHCOLLIDE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the threadmaker should be banned for his low brain iq.

    saying ward is not impressive...says that u are a dummy who thinks its a streetfight and not boxing.

    iam not even a ward fan like that...but his boxing is amazing..not exciting ..but technically amazing