Nog says to Mir LETS DO IT AGAIN!!!

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    "Minotauro" Nogueira: If Frank Mir thinks I was making excuses, then let's go do it again

    by John Morgan on Sep 04, 2009 at 7:45 pm ET
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    UFC heavyweight Frank Mir (12-4 MMA, 10-4 UFC) doesn't have much good to say about Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) these days.

    Mir has taken exception to the numerous "excuses" – such as a severe staph infection that hospitalized the Brazilian, as well as torn meniscus – laid out by UFC president Dana White, UFC announcer Joe Rogan and "Minotauro" himself as to why the Nogueira that lost to Frank Mir in December 2008 was different than the one that defeated Randy Couture in the main event of this past Saturday's UFC 102 in Portland, Ore.

    Nogueira's been listening to Mir's complaints, and now he's ready to reply.

    MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today spoke with Ed Soares, Nogueira's manager, and the Brazilian had a message to deliver through his representative.

    "Rodrigo just got off the phone with me, and we were talking about it," Soares said. "Rodrigo's been watching a lot of these interviews with Mir saying that Nogueira is just making excuses, and what Nogueira feels is he's not making excuses. If he was making excuses, he would have been saying that immediately after the fight with Mir.

    "He wanted to come out and put on a good performance against Mir, and he's not making excuses now. He's giving the reason he performed the way he did back in December."

    In an interview with RawVegas.tv, Mir criticized the on-air performance of Rogan during the UFC 102 broadcast for repeatedly referring to Nogueira's injuries prior to the UFC 92 contest.

    "I heard that Rogan is making a lot of excuses for certain fighters for why they performed badly," Mir said. "That's always disheartening to me just for the reason being that every fighter has reasons why we don't perform at 100 percent. I think as fans we don't want to hear heroes or warriors ever sitting and complaining that they almost died from staph or anything else. I think that's pretty sad and pathetic."

    Nogueira said little after the UFC 92 loss to Mir, and he only addressed the injuries prior to that bout when pressed by reporters at UFC 102's post-fight press conference.

    "I had a staph infection," Nogueira said after UFC 102. "I was in the hospital for seven days just like 20 days before the fight. The day I came out of the hospital I tore my meniscus in my left [knee]."

    Soares today said those comments were never meant as excuses for the loss.

    "There's a big difference between making excuses and giving the reason why," Soares said. "And just to prove that Nogueira is not making excuses, he wants his next fight to be against Mir, and he wants to fight him in December."

    Mir is currently rumored to be facing Cheick Kongo at UFC 107 on Dec. 12 in Memphis, Tenn. But as witnessed by the recent scrapping of a previously announced rematch between Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin, the UFC has been known to shuffle matchups when the situation dictates the change.

    Soares and Nogueira hope the bad blood building between their camp and Mir can prove to be one of those situations.

    "Nogueira didn't want the information about his injuries to come out, and that's proof that he wasn't making excuses," Soares said. "If Mir really thinks he was making excuses, then let's get in there and go in the octagon in December.

    "We want it."





    Frank Mir ... :roll:
     
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  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im sure Mir would do it agian he will fight anyone but is Dana willing to promote a rematch of one of the most one sided fights in recent memory ? This isnt like a Shamrock-Ortiz thing where atleast they can build it up with some unintentional comedy.
     
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  3. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    lol Mir really knows how to mess with people mentally. If he fought Nog again he'll find another way to beat him. Nog beats a 46 yr old Couture and all of a sudden everybody thinks he's back. He fought a great fight against Randy don't get me wrong but Mir would beat him again. It wasn't injuries that caused to Nog to lose to Mir. It was basic Boxing that tagged Nog right on the button with his chin exposed. Standup wise it was the same old Nog that fought everyone else including Couture. And Nog couldn't sub Randy, he's not gonna sub Mir. Mir is a black belt also, just a step below but Mir's strenght can keep Nog controlled and Mir will throw him around again. Frank takes it again.
     
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  4. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats what I've been saying all week
     
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  5. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Looks like Nog is believing his own hype:-( He could potentially get broken next time. Can you imagine with Mir's strenght what would happen if he grabbed hold of one of Nog's legs or arms? Nog most likely isn't the type to tap. We can possibly see something very nasty:shock:
     
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  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This fight should happen. Especially as Brock is fighting Carwin. Make the fight happen I say.

    Nog deserves the rematch and Mir is coming off a loss. Despite their fight being one sided, I think it should still happen.
     
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  7. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm expecting you to bet the house as soon as this fight will be 100% official , You'll clearly become a millionaire and i sincerely hope that you'll share a bit of that money with every esb mma contributors...

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  8. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    I'm a greedy ***** when it comes to money so I doubt this. Believe me, my girlfriend can tell you... Thanks for thinking I'm a sharing kind of guy though.:lol::good
     
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  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :lol::lol::thumbsup Nog reminds me alot of Carl Thompson. The dude literally is a cat. He has 9 lives.
     
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  10. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude stfu Nog is one of the greatest of all time. Frank Mir can't carry his jockstrap.

    Frank Mir got battered by a pub landlord (Freeman) and a pudgy jiu jitsu coach who can't fight (pe de pano). But I guess falling off a motorcycle is just an excuse right? :roll:

    The old dog will whup Mir and you'll all be eating crow :yep

    In fact, i don't know why you guys don't just PM on these issues and I'll tell you how it is.
     
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  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Dont forget Vera handed him his ass.. And Wes Sims :yep (yes Sims from TUF..) Like i keep saying fans memories are o soo short.
     
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  12. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You guys who are picking Nog to woop Mir are simply not using your heads. Ya , Nog is probably the second or third best MMA HW of all time, but it still doesn't change the fact that his a former shell of himself. Lets take the Frank Mir fight aside for right now. What about his other fights in the UFC. He barely squicked by Heath Herring and Tim Sylvia, and in both fights he almost got KO'd taking severe punishment, thats not the mark of an elite fighter. Nogueira is pretty much a shot fighter, winning a decision over a fellow old fighter with a lot of miles like Couture doesnt all of the sudden mean that his back and ready to beat Frank Mir who was dominating him every second of their last fight. Anything can happen in fighting, but the chances of him beating Mir are very slim.
     
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  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Bingo. And this is the sole reason why Mir should learn to keep his ****ing mouth shut. When all is said and done history wont remember frank Mir. But Nog's placed is already etched in stone.
     
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  14. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude what the hell was that? Youre just saying everything thats already been said.

    Nog BEAT Herring and Sylvia. He beat Couture. Couture is old but better than most fighters in the world. Thats the bottom line.

    Nog looks the worst he ever has and gets stopped with strikes by a guy who isnt a striker, then comes back and beats Couture. I think I'll give him a pass.
     
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  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would take Mir again in that fight. There has been a continual decline in his abilities for a while now; Herring nearly KO'd him, Sylvia nearly KO'd him, Mir dropped him over and over before finishing the job, then another declining fighter in Couture lost a decision.

    However you feel about Mir, including the irrational haters, it's pretty clear that the fight with the other aging fighter was the exception, not the fight with Mir.

    I especially enjoy those just flat out ignoring that the first fight happened at all, or even actually using it to criticize Mir; as if he should never have had the audacity to beat Nog. It's pathetic.
     
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