Nonito Donaire and Fernando Montiel

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Looking forward to it..Ive been a Montiel fan for some time and I do think quite highly of Donaire.

    Have thought Fernando has been on a gradual and subtle slide for a while now though...He set up that knockout of Hasegawa beautifully but I'm not so sure about his ability to stay sharp for 12 hard rounds.

    I'll be gunning for Montiel big time but I will be ever so slightly surprised if Donaire doesnt find a way to win this.
    If his beard has some questions to answer, this fight should be the one to do it...As I dont think Darchinyan ever landed anything of note against him, apart for a couple of left hands that might have tickled him a little..if they did he hid it well.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    I'd have to watch it again but I can't recall a telling, chin-checking shot Darch landed on Donaire either. He was like Darchinyan Kryptonite in there.
     
  3. WhataRock

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    Pretty much took the left hand out of the equation with his speed and positioning...then is was all academic really.

    Though Vic is, was and will always be a fighter who depends very heavily on his dominant hand, almost to the point where him being labeled a one handed fighter is justified..I dont think he could have given that fight to Donaire on a platter anymore than he did..with his arrogance and predictability shown that night.

    He was just going for the homerun with every punch and giving Donaire so much time to see what was coming.

    Nonito did get clipped by a few shots...but he generally rode them so well they were glancing at best.
    There were a couple of fleeting moments I thought he might have been a little stung...at some point in the second and when he did that little spin in the 4th. Just because he went fairly defensive after those exchanges compared to the rest of the fight, where he never looked intimidated by Vic at all.

    Montiel's body work and true two handed power might give him a lot more to think about though.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa! ...Darchinyan...arrogant?!!! This conversation is over.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me for all the world that Donaire is ATG bound.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    My brain goes with Donaire, the much more complete fighter (and in great form recently).

    My heart - & spidey-senses - contravene. Montiel is less consistent (having struggled early on with Alejandro Valdez not too long ago - almost as much as the green and unproven Rico Ramos just did). He has fewer dimensions. While he can box, he is undoubtedly in the role of "the puncher" in this match-up - against someone whose own considerable punch is not necessarily any softer.

    However...all of the above applied to the Montiel-Hasegawa match-up. Every word.

    Yes, that was just one night...and yes, it's folly to expect lightning to be bottled twice (in a row, no less).

    I just...think it will.

    I don't know why. There is no corresponding logic based on any analytical insight (other than perhaps the fact that Donaire is taking a much bigger step up in class compared to past opposition than Montiel is, and may be coming in a bit cocky...and remember, we have seen him stunned by lesser forces than Kochul, despite a seemingly high overall punch resistance...).

    I'm thinking Montiel...by KO. :conf
     
  7. WhataRock

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    Thats why I thought he might have been on the slide a little recently IB.

    He also came close to dropping the Rosas fight aswell...to me he just didnt look comfortable at the weight in that fight..but he turned that around against Hasegawa.

    To be fair thought Valdez and Rosas were good fighters IMO...Rosas, though basic, went on a good run after the Montiel fight..I probably thought Valdez was better then what he ended up being but I really think he is a decent fighter..just needs to go back down to bantam and build his confidence back up.
     
  8. dpw417

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    Logic says that Donaire takes this fight...Taller, longer reach, faster, good power you name it off and it checks for Donaire. If Donaire goes into this fight with a mindset of just winning wihout taking chances, he'll beat Montiel...If he looks to win impressively(?)This is a hunch, but where I think Montiel has a shot at a KO is this...I like Montiel's style to find holes when Donaire commits to his offense. Donaire will also find Montiel difficult to time, and will have to respect Montiel's feints due to his power. Either a counter left hook when Donaire hooks after the cross, or a looping right over the top when Donaire jabs across his body. I think Montiel gets him in trouble early and catches him in round five.
    Montiel KO5
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Donaire. There are just too many ways for him to win this fight. He can work behind the jab, counter-punch and outpoint his opponent in a safety first decision. And given that Montiel's been hurt and on the canvas in recent fights, I think it's just as likely that he'll hurt his foe by catching him with something on the way in with something big when the latter tries to accelerate, and jumps on him to force the stoppage after a couple of knockdowns.

    And I think that option is more likely.

    Donaire KO 9
     
  10. Sister Sledge

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    Not picking a winner, but I see Donaire going down at least once in this fight.
     
  11. PIPO23

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    Vic doesn't hit as hard as you think.Mijares would get KTFO within 4 rnds no question asked against Montiel.As well as that powerpuff puncher Kirilov one

    round that's all it would take, easy work for Fernando.Agbeko oh please, kid is a KO waiting to happen put him with Montiel he get's stopped within 8. Now,

    we know what kind of fighter Montiel is.I gave Hasegaw 20 percent chance of winning. I knew he would get KTFO coz he hasn't fought any one of note.

    Because he hasn't been tested IMO. Donaire we'll see I see a Montiel KO again. The question is chin?? or how easy he can get hit. He get's hit easy early.

    Curtains.
     
  12. Leonard

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    these are two tough fighters. i'm guessing we'll get to see the full 12. i'm going with donaire by UD.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Wow, really?

    I mean - yeah, they're both tough...but they also both hit hard...and very sharply. Something's gotta give..
     
  14. 8count

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    I am hard pressed to make a erec... prediction.

    voted UD for donaire 'cause I want the fight to last as long as it could.

    but I imagine both are going to lie down and grunt a number of times during this fight.








    absolutely [no homo]
     
  15. 8count

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    doesn't anyone see a Montiel UD?


    wtf