Nonito Donaire - Can anyone explain to me...

Koki Kameda

 

yes it is nonsense that donaire is anywhere near that.

i mean darchinyan has gone on to win every belt since hasn't he? the only person in history.

that in itself should put vic clearly in the top ten, well above donaire, who despite his win over vic should be well behind him.

it should not be based on 3 years ago, it has to be updated correctly.

i wouldn't be blaming management, the fighter has got a tongue in his head, so if his management is not doing there job, then tell them to do it. its just a lame excuse imo.

 

No way should Vic be above Nonito, he was dominated and violently Ktfod. Nonito still hasnt loss and Vic loss to Agbeko who lost to Yohnny Perez.

I can see if you dont want to put Nonito in the top 10 but to put vic in is absurd.

 

Totally agreed.

 

If Hasegawa beats Montiel wide or by TKO, he'll almost assuredly fail to get into the Ring's top 10, even though......

Montiel is better than anybody Nonito's beaten since Vic, Donaire looked unimpressive in his first fight at 115/Hasegawa's been beating on guys, and despite Hasegawa having beat Sahaprom twice (a better fighter than Vic).

Half of their ratings don't make sense. I've given up on stressing myself over it.

 

Nonentity is a nonentity.

 

Hasegawa is just outside my top 10 and Montiel around 20 ish. Whoever wins impressively gets in.

 

Not true at all. The Ring's voting panel is made up of 40 + boxing writers from around the world, of which 3 (maybe 4) are actually Ring Magazine employees.

 

lets not get silly now.

there was very little in it after 4 rounds, and he hardly got the **** beat out of him. it was one great shot.

u know pacman for example had embarrassing ko losses but because he went on to improve and win impressive titles he is a top p4p guy now.

vic recovered from the loss and became the 1st ever undisputed champ for the division and he should be rewarded for it.

if donaire decides to fight some decent opposition and keeps winning then he should move up the list. but too much is put on his win over vic i believe. he needs more impressive scalps imo.

also vics insistance on only fighting the fights that people expect to see gives him another edge.

 

Simple answer. Skill.

 

Because he knocked Darchinyan the **** out when he was in his prime and hasn't lost since and has dominated his competition. And hell no, he aint ducking the big names, it's more like the other way around.

 

P4P lists are often based around ability rather than recent achievement. While the above statement holds, people have a reason to keep him there.

 

Nonito needs to move up in weight, he is weight drained at 115.

 

While ill admit Vic should get props for fighting good opposition but it still doesnt erase the fact that he got beat by Agbeko. So why should he be in the top 10 pfp. If thats the case then put Agbeko and if you have him u have to put Yohnny.
As for Nonito well he was winning the fight up until he knocked out Vic. Its not like he got some lucky shot in there.
Dont get me wrong Vic is a helluva fighter he might be in my top 25 but no way does he deserve a top 10 ranking. If he never lost to Agbeko and then say beat Yohnyy then you can put him higher than Nonito but as for now i say no way.

 

fact that most Vic followers seem to ignore.