Nonito Donaire Is Definitely A HOFer, But Is He An ATG???

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Is Nonito An ATG???

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He probably doesn't rank higher than Spence and AJ on your list.:lol:

    Give it a rest, he's the very definition of an ATG in and around his weight, same goes for Roman Gonzalez. Just because you might not be big on the lower divisions and any of their accomplishments down there, and that they may not have the same level of fame, doesn't lessen their ATG status when hey have the record to back that **** up.
     
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  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell No...
     
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  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not even close. He was totally dominated in his two biggest fights; Rigo and Walters
     
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  4. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This , I like him as a fighter but he is no ATG. If you want to know the definition of ATG it’s this simple , the best of the best of the ****ing best,He ain’t that.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So.... I take you don't think Roy Jones Jr. is an ATG then? After all he got taken to school by Joe and KO'd by much bigger men countless times.
     
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Why are a couple people acting like Walters was among his biggest fights? He was getting older on his fifth division for that and everything after (except coming down two divisions late in his career). His biggest fights against his best opponents were Darchinyan, Montiel, Nishioka, Narvaez, and Mthalane plus the big L to Rigondeaux with many more notable wins to boot.

    Donaire is one of the literal two or three best low-weight fighters (only Roman Gonzalez maybe?) who hopped around classes in this recent Pound-for-Pound Era, so to speak.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    If he can pull one last big rabbit out of his hat against Inoue and wins the WBSS against all odds, I think he's just there. But it's not too likely he will.
     
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  8. Thanos

    Thanos Active Member Full Member

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    ATG for sure!
     
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  9. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Not sure about that ATG thing. He didn't fight any of the five best Bantam's at the time he was at Bantamweight. Mares, Agbeko, Perez, Darchinyan, and Moreno. Montiel wasn't better than any of them at the time. He ended up rematching Darchinyan at 126 when he was long past it. He also got the boxing lesson of his life, along with his face getting broken against a midget at 122, and also looked vulnerable in a couple other fights at 122. He then got chopped down by a somewhat crude Jamaican at featherweight, and all type of excuses were made about Walters being bigger. But Donaire built his hype on beating shorter midgets like Montiel, past it Sydorenko, and past it Arce. Donaire left his prime weights much too quickly in my opinion, without having cleaned them out. There are guys at 112-118 now, who would be his best opponents if they were fighting back then.
     
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  10. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Roy had already been destroyed a couple times when reluctant Joe thought he was softened up enough to take the bout.
     
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